Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Enc *can* solo the minis but there are few enc actually soloing them on the reg. Far easier with backup.

For sure. I am not trying to say it is easy. But it's an option if you want the other players doing something else.

I am now thinking about the solo crew. It is an interesting thought about what would be more efficient.

With the Enchanter/Enchanter/Enchanter/Wizard group, having 3 solo Enchanters at easier spots like Chardok, SG, Velks, etc. would probably be a bit more consistent, and you would be spending less time porting around.

With the Shaman/Enchanter/Enchanter/Wizard group, you can scoop up the Shaman/Enchanter to do harder camps for bigger ticket items like Puppets, Minis, Fungi King, etc. The Shaman can solo much better than a Cleric, so you still have the option of having every group member out soloing while there are no good duo targets up.

The question becomes how much plat are you losing by taking the risk of removing two of your members out of their current camps to try and bag a better duo camp?

[Gloomlord]

If you or anyone missed the post, I'm pointing out he said something he knows is false. There is no way he doesn't know a parse for solo DPS on Shaman is irrelevant. You know this makes him look incredibly bad, and yet here you are engaging some pointless ego inflation by lying and saying I do "nothing but make insults". I'm quite clearly backing up those insults pretty thoroughly.

I wanted to make this an edit, but it seems I ran out of time.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you or anyone missed the post, I'm pointing out he said something he knows is false. There is no way he doesn't know a parse for solo DPS on Shaman is irrelevant. You know this makes him look incredibly bad, and yet here you are engaging some pointless ego inflation by lying and saying I do "nothing but make insults". I'm quite clearly backing up those insults pretty thoroughly.

I wanted to make this an edit, but it seems I ran out of time.

You still haven't answered my question:

If I showed you a parse where a Shaman out-DPSed a Mage in a group scenario, would you then say Shamans are a better DPS class?

[Gloomlord]

You'd need to show the context of the scenario.

You give us a parse of solo DPS, then pretend that it has merit in a discussion where 4 people are forming a group. The context you provided is irrelevant.

You know that, of course.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You'd need to show the context of the scenario.

You give us a parse of solo DPS, then pretend that it has merit in a discussion where 4 people are forming a group. The context you provided is irrelevant.

You know that, of course.

Troxx didn't provide the context of his scenario either. It was just a screenshot, but you accepted his data. Why is that?

If I did the same thing, would you believe me?

[Gloomlord]

Alright then, get a shaman DPS parse in a 2 charm group, if you think Troxx was taking things out of context.

At least he didn't try to pass solo DPS off like it has merits in a group.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Alright then, get a shaman DPS parse in a 2 charm group, if you think Troxx was taking things out of context.

At least he didn't try to pass solo DPS off like it has merits in a group.

I have video and log evidence. It is far superior to Troxx's data, which you admit you don't have the proper context for. This means your side has nothing.

Come back when you have evidence showing DPS will differ in a group, and that you cannot do DPS parsing solo.

[Gloomlord]

Be thankful Troxx has clearly left P99 so that he can't clarify his parse.

Not that it would make a difference, right? Considering how we spent last year trying to make you admit to the truth.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Be thankful Troxx has clearly left P99 so that he can't clarify his parse.

Not that it would make a difference, right? Considering how we spent last year trying to make you admit to the truth.

I honestly wish he would. I asked him to many times. He responded with silly gifs. He could have easily provided more data such as logs.

[Gloomlord]

As I've said before: someone could go completely out of their way to show you parses, and even provide video evidence. It doesn't matter, though.

You're never going to admit to the truth, anyway. And, despite the fact you'll claim otherwise, you'll clearly think the person is an idiot deep down for going this length to prove you wrong.

All it takes is some common sense to realise that Shaman is not going to sustain the same DPS as a Mage pet in a charm group, which costs no mana and simply requires hitting the keybind for assist and the keybind for pet attack. Shaman dots will not tick their full duration, and they will run out of mana eventually.

All a Shaman can do to earn their keep is, if they possess it, click JBB. Shaman with JBB vs Mage with max water pet. Who do you think wins here?

I repeat, for the nth time: why remain here in this thread when noone, not even that self-righteous imbecile BcBrown, is agreeing with you?