P99 is a Meritocracy, not a Democracy

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Ennewi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It isn't disingenuous to argue ...

I was responding to what you wrote. I won't try and address it all, as it was a massive post full of disingenuity, but just to pick one obvious example, you argued:

The devs at SOE concluded that each player did in fact have the right to dictate less interaction with other people on those servers and allowed as much through the /ignore command while also providing GMs with commands of their own to restrict players who were deemed to be in violation of the rules.

/ignore has nothing to do with how raiding is or isn't moderated: you even bringing it into the conversation (as if it was relevant) is disingenuous.

[Ennewi]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was responding to what you wrote. I won't try and address it all, as it was a massive post full of disingenuity

But it's disingenuous to suggest that the massive post was what I wrote when it consisted mostly of quotes from others, copy/pasted.

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

to pick one obvious example, you argued: The devs at SOE concluded that each player did in fact have the right to dictate less interaction with other people on those servers and allowed as much through the /ignore command while also providing GMs with commands of their own to restrict players who were deemed to be in violation of the rules.

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

/ignore has nothing to do with how raiding is or isn't moderated: you even bringing it into the conversation (as if it was relevant) is disingenuous.

EQ came from MUDs, text-based games, so it's hard to see how /ignore isn't relevant. But the conversation stopped being strictly about raiding and/or moderation right around here...

Originally Posted by SantagarBrax View Post
You, nor any other player, hast the right to dictate less interaction with other people on the server simply because you don't like it.

That is a very broad, black and white statement. The massive wall of copy/paste "disingenuity" highlighted the gray area that exists and there's a lot of it, hence the wall. Confronting people with a small blurb/direct quote earlier wasn't enough because those people chose to interpret it to fit their own point of view, which is fine but this the nature of genuinely debating a topic.

Again, the topic has expanded to cover interdependence and player interactions overall, but even just considering /ignore within the context of raids... If a player chooses to put someone on ignore, due to harassment, they won't see "TRAIN TO WEST EXIST" in /ooc from that player. Those situations rarely occur during draft week due to everyone picking their own times to train and kill targets. Clerics also use /rt to heal and have their heal chains in ooc/shout regularly, which opposing guilds have attempted to interfere with. Players have done this on golem races as well, /randoming when they weren't designated to do so. The list goes on, but that would lead to a wall of text...