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Old 07-27-2022, 11:43 AM
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You fellas started this game, pardon me if I support seeing it through to the end

Y'all really not understanding long-term consequences, huh
I started the game by being thrown under the bus for supporting sanders?

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Old 07-27-2022, 11:44 AM
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The most important thing to me is having a candidate who is going to respect our system and democratic process and accept election results. If you agree with that as an important factor, then sounds like we are in agreement.

If you think Trump is a good option, then we are not because he refused to accept a legitimate election and tried to illegally stop it from being effective.
You voted for Biden before trump did that, and you say that's the reason you voted for Biden?

While Biden was president, cooperate profits have broken records, while we had record inflation.

Sure a lot of that has to do with both sides, but you cant say that these huge records, the previous bail out to banks, and the failing economy is just a nothing burger. Especially when they run campaigns where they say they are trying to stop the cooperate lobbying and control of politics.

Some of us think that all this money and power going to the banks, is complete disrespect for the democratic process and election results.

Say what you will about republicans, but they run their campaign on what they do while they are in the whtie house. They want to lower taxes, hate social laws and want to have strong LEO but that's all bad for the country, unless a democrat does it. Makes no sense to me.

I was smart enough to know not all muslims are terrorists, and im smart enough to know not all humans cause climate change.

Im sick of being lumped in with the kardashians and the corperations and the banks that are the cause of it, who the democrats just hand money to!
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Old 07-27-2022, 11:44 AM
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30s in you need a Senator to formally object?

I like it when the bossman says "The gentleman/gentlewoman WILL SUSPEND"

It means 'shutup' lol
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Old 07-27-2022, 12:21 PM
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I started the game by being thrown under the bus for supporting sanders?

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If your prior support for the only half-decent national politician in the last century of American politics has pickled into supporting Trump, I somehow question your actual support for the ideas Bernie had in the first place
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Old 07-27-2022, 12:29 PM
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You voted for Biden before trump did that, and you say that's the reason you voted for Biden?

While Biden was president, cooperate profits have broken records, while we had record inflation.

Sure a lot of that has to do with both sides, but you cant say that these huge records, the previous bail out to banks, and the failing economy is just a nothing burger. Especially when they run campaigns where they say they are trying to stop the cooperate lobbying and control of politics.

Some of us think that all this money and power going to the banks, is complete disrespect for the democratic process and election results.

Say what you will about republicans, but they run their campaign on what they do while they are in the whtie house. They want to lower taxes, hate social laws and want to have strong LEO but that's all bad for the country, unless a democrat does it. Makes no sense to me.

I was smart enough to know not all muslims are terrorists, and im smart enough to know not all humans cause climate change.

Im sick of being lumped in with the kardashians and the corperations and the banks that are the cause of it, who the democrats just hand money to!
I voted for Biden because Trump was doing analogous things during the last couple years of his Presidency. For example, firing the various inspectors general and replacing them with Trump loyalists so there would be no transparency. He was awful with respect to leadership during the worst of the COVID pandemic and was one of the reasons it became a politicized issue instead of just a medical and public health issue. His attempts to politicize various departments, such as the DOJ, that are supposed to be independent overall was another thing I didn't like. Basically, I think he failed in a moment of crisis and was also generally someone who tried to dismantle the systems we've developed to ensure accountability in our government.

Oh and he was already pushing the election fraud stuff before the election. For months he was saying the election was going to be fraudulent and he wouldn't say if he would respect a Biden victory.

As an side, Trump only lowered taxes for part of the country. Not everyone. So kind of not really in line with what you claim is a Republican standard lol
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Old 07-27-2022, 01:41 PM
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If your prior support for the only half-decent national politician in the last century of American politics has pickled into supporting Trump, I somehow question your actual support for the ideas Bernie had in the first place
It's also interesting because one of his comments was about the rich and corporations and how they benefit under Biden.

Trump is like the definition of doing things to favor the rich and corporations. The vast majority of his decisions as President were geared toward that and in private he reviles anyone who isn't wealthy lol (I used to spend time with him and his family before he was President - all he cares about is greed and his own self image as a successful person).
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Old 07-27-2022, 01:51 PM
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It's also interesting because one of his comments was about the rich and corporations and how they benefit under Biden.

Trump is like the definition of doing things to favor the rich and corporations. The vast majority of his decisions as President were geared toward that and in private he reviles anyone who isn't wealthy lol (I used to spend time with him and his family before he was President - all he cares about is greed and his own self image as a successful person).
Minorities saw the largest wage increases in 40 years under Trump

Minorities can't even afford basic needs like food, energy, baby food and gas under Pedo Pete

Hope that helps
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Old 07-27-2022, 01:57 PM
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Minorities saw the largest wage increases in 40 years under Trump

Minorities can't even afford basic needs like food, energy, baby food and gas under Pedo Pete

Hope that helps
President generally doesn't have a huge effect on that. Just like Obama can't claim credit for a good economy. The economy is generally cyclical.

Also minority wages grew materially less than non-minority wages. And even then the overall wage increase was minimal as well. This would be like saying "prices for X are the cheapest ever" when they're down by 10 cents.

Also LOL at the implication that Trump cares about minorities. Dude used to use racial slurs when referring to them a few years back, lol
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Old 07-27-2022, 02:06 PM
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President generally doesn't have a huge effect on that. Just like Obama can't claim credit for a good economy. The economy is generally cyclical.

Also minority wages grew materially less than non-minority wages. And even then the overall wage increase was minimal as well. This would be like saying "prices for X are the cheapest ever" when they're down by 10 cents.

Also LOL at the implication that Trump cares about minorities. Dude used to use racial slurs when referring to them a few years back, lol
Obviously Obama can't claim credit for a good economy because the economy sucked during his 8 years in office

Economy under Trump was awesome. Minorities benefited the most.

Nice try though
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Old 07-27-2022, 02:19 PM
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Yeah, I bet they did, it explains why so many minority voters are diehard Trump supporters. Damn, what outreach, from 3 whole voters to 4 per 100,000 all in four years
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