Solo Barbarian Shaman Stat Allocation

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by eqravenprince [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My UI doesn't show total mana is why I asked what custom UI you were using so I could do my own testing.

Ah yeah, it's just the old UI that P99 was using before updating it. Not sure if people are hosting it anywhere, I just had it from before the update, and it still works.

[eqravenprince]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ah yeah, it's just the old UI that P99 was using before updating it. Not sure if people are hosting it anywhere, I just had it from before the update, and it still works.

Lucky you, only way I could test this is going thirsty, then start casting spells til completely empty.

[eqravenprince]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ah yeah, it's just the old UI that P99 was using before updating it. Not sure if people are hosting it anywhere, I just had it from before the update, and it still works.

Can you do a test for me? Take all your gear off and add one piece of gear with only wisdom and tell me what multiplier you get at level 60.

[greenspectre]

Originally Posted by eqravenprince [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can you do a test for me? Take all your gear off and add one piece of gear with only wisdom and tell me what multiplier you get at level 60.

I just wanted to point out that somebody asked DSM to take off all his clothes in a thread.

Honestly I don't think there's much of a difference between picking STA or WIS when you start if you're trying to ask yourself where you'll be at 60. If you pick WIS, you can load up on more STA gear to compensate, and if you pick STA, you can pick more WIS gear to compensate. 105/105 seems pretty good to me (I started WIS at green launch, but not based on any theorycrafting).

So I guess the operative question would be which gear is easier to get within the listed restrictions of being an endgame-non-raid-shaman? STA or WIS? Whatever the answer to that is, seems like OP would want to pick the opposite, no?

Just did my first AoE'ing WW dragon solo today, Hachaeva. While I'm more raid geared than the theorycrafting we are doing on this post, I definitely went from full mana bar to almost zero during the encounter. And I'm built for mana slightly more than HP.

Question to Loramin actually here- My Magelo shows my max HP unbuffed at 2068, yet its 2148 in-game. I checked my gear and stats over and over but can't figure out where the discrepancy is. Do you, Master of the Wiki (tm) have any idea why? Help would be appreciated!

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by greenspectre [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just wanted to point out that somebody asked DSM to take off all his clothes in a thread.

Lol.

Originally Posted by greenspectre [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Question to Loramin actually here- My Magelo shows my max HP unbuffed at 2068, yet its 2148 in-game. I checked my gear and stats over and over but can't figure out where the discrepancy is. Do you, Master of the Wiki (tm) have any idea why? Help would be appreciated!

The Magelo calculations have always been a bit off. For HP and Mana I am sure the formula could be tweaked to be closer, although I am not sure how easy it would be. For AC I am not sure if it is possible, since the value displayed in-game is wrong anyway I believe. I guess they could just adjust the Magelo formula to match the wrong value in the UI.

Originally Posted by greenspectre [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So I guess the operative question would be which gear is easier to get within the listed restrictions of being an endgame-non-raid-shaman? STA or WIS? Whatever the answer to that is, seems like OP would want to pick the opposite, no?

Correct. STA is generally easier to cap with Velious Era gear, even if it isn't raid gear. For example, Othmir Prexus Totem gives you +20 STA, and you can buy it in EC. You also need to take into account that Shamans can buff their STA by an additional 50 via Riotous Health. You can only buff WIS by 10 via Bear Form. So that is +70 STA just from 1 item and 1 buff.

Originally Posted by greenspectre [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just did my first AoE'ing WW dragon solo today, Hachaeva. While I'm more raid geared than the theorycrafting we are doing on this post, I definitely went from full mana bar to almost zero during the encounter. And I'm built for mana slightly more than HP.

Grats! Yeah WW Dragons can drain you of mana if you get unlucky resists and whatnot. The trick to using as little mana as possible is clickies and minimizing spell usage. I don't use Bane of Nife, for example. I just use Pox, Epic, and sometimes JBB. I also use my pet (unhasted) to basically act as another DoT. He does enough damage to basically stop a WW Dragon's regeneration.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igpbLuNe0ls This is an example of how I pull and kill Bravatar.

[greenspectre]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Grats! Yeah WW Dragons can drain you of mana if you get unlucky resists and whatnot. The trick to using as little mana as possible is clickies and minimizing spell usage. I don't use Bane of Nife, for example. I just use Pox, Epic, and sometimes JBB. I also use my pet (unhasted) to basically act as another DoT. He does enough damage to basically stop a WW Dragon's regeneration.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igpbLuNe0ls This is an example of how I pull and kill Bravatar.

Nice, yeah actually it was pretty smooth, all things considered, I was just a bit distracted with other stuff during the engage (being a dad and whatnot). I tried one bane, but gave up on that, used Cripple, Insidious Decay, Slow, Pox, and Epic, with pet also chewing away. Had to torp the pet once, and thanks to Grim Aura from my ring and SoW boots I lost minimal buffs. Needed a bit more Cold Resist for sure, but resisted occasionally.