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Old 07-16-2022, 12:02 AM
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Wizard can gate to Rivervale, manadance to full quickly, then port out to keep killing. This makes them incredibly powerful.
Not practical. That's a bad bind spot and it's generally going to take too long to port back and run to the spot where you were hunting.

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Wizards are great at anything but group xp content.
No. They are inferior to melee DPS for Velious raiding (very inferior against targets that Banes don't work on), they generally can't solo farm any good items and are a bad duo partner, and for group farming where it's all about churning through NPC's they have the exact same problem as xp groups.

With the nerf to cash drops given by Seafuries, Wizards are especially weak at doing any kind of relevant farming. And this whole game basically just comes down to farming.

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You're taking raiding into account without weighing LoH, soulfires, and Divine Strength?
Call of the Predator to buff all the melees on the raid is more valuable than the Pally HP buff and LoH combined. Killing faster means taking less damage. Ranger additionally has Weaponshield discipline on top of that. Soulfire is not something that has lasting value. It's not classic to be using that item as frequently as it saw play on p99. It's supposed to just be a rare case usage, maybe for one encounter the Pally can save the fight, but the expectation should be that it will be awhile before they pick up another Soulfire to use again.

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SK has to be the biggest loser here as they bring nothing unique to a raid
AC debuff = DPS increase for the raid. Doesn't work on all targets, and I don't know the exact math on this (it also largely depends on how many melee you have in total), but possibly an SK for those targets could edge out the amount of DPS that you would get from having another Rogue on the raid instead.

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I'd take a Paladin or Ranger over Warrior and Rogue for any group 1-50.
Then you will likely be leveling slower.
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Old 07-16-2022, 12:35 PM
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And this whole game basically just comes down to farming.
For you, sure, but that isn't true for everyone. Some people actual take their time with the game and enjoy the experience rather than just trying to min max and optimize everything and rushing XP gain as fast as they can. Some people, as hard as it might be for you to imagine, don't care much about pixels that give them BIS stats or whatever because that's not important to them.
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Old 07-16-2022, 08:53 PM
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Some people actual take their time with the game and enjoy the experience rather than just trying to min max and optimize everything and rushing XP gain as fast as they can. Some people, as hard as it might be for you to imagine, don't care much about pixels that give them BIS stats or whatever because that's not important to them.
Sure, but that's not relevant to a discussion about power level of classes.
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Old 07-19-2022, 10:38 AM
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Not practical. That's a bad bind spot and it's generally going to take too long to port back and run to the spot where you were hunting.
I am talking about XPing here.

If you can go from OOM to FM in just a few minutes, you intentionally hunt near a port in an outdoor zone quad kiting.
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