When are they Implementing the Charm Nerf?

[PatChapp]

Originally Posted by commongood [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've kind of lost track of the different directions this debate is going.

Are the pro-nerf people saying that the effect of (or even existence of) a charisma check on charm break should be reduced or removed?

Or is it that channelling doesn't work correctly? (this would affect all classes I suppose)

I have both a 60 chanter and a 60 shaman and I frequently farm in places like PoM (both), OT (both) and Velketor (chanter).

Soloing with chanter is much faster. Soloing with shaman is much safer. People saying it's "god-mode" or "fool-proof" to charm solo as chanter are incorrect in my opinion. The ceiling for charming is obviously ultra high in terms of what you can do, but you have to be ready to soak up deaths. If you have good gear this can off-set the number of death's but there will still be many more death's than if you are on the shaman.

So I suppose people wanting a chanter nerf either want it to be impossible to charm solo stuff beyond a certain threshold or for it to be much riskier than it already is?

And this is because it may or may not have been different back in actual 1999-2001? But the evidence is not completely compelling? Or it would have already happened?

It really won't affect much at lvl60,moreso the leveling process. I die a lot at 60 if im doing hard content anyway. My favorite camps are dictate camps and won't be affected by a nerf at all.

[-Catherin-]

Thing is, the side effect of "nerfing" charm to remove CHA would actually make it more powerful. The reason is because that "nerf" also includes a change to the enchanter charm spell that gives it a +4 level modifer. Basically if you are level 60, its like you are casting with the resist check of a level 64. Your level far outweighs CHA when it comes to charming. Chanters would also be able to dump all of their CHA gear for gear with HP and resists, making it easier from that aspect too. So the "nerf" would actually be a buff.

And here I am arguing against it lol.