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[robayon]

Originally Posted by Mblake1981 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Aliens Vs. Predator desktop computer games were tits, those released before the god awful AVP films, new Predators or Aliens. Isolation was the best Alien game released in recent history. See that is the thing, these were not part of the main franchise. The main franchise being a Predator movie where you don't see him until part-way through the film and the other is about a mysterious Alien lifeform that kills a space crew
part-way through the film. (The point being they later turned a scary monster into the star, like Reddit fan fiction. The stuff we used to call computer games and comic books..)

Edit: Both were late 1970's - mid 1980's horror-slasher-action science-fiction films when Hollywood Left-Wing Ultra Violence ruled the media (and it still does).

I'm not disagreeing but that's the second time I have seen you refer to Hollywood Left-Wing Ultra Violence.

What makes violence in movies left-wing? The victims of the violence? Can you clarify this term?

[Mblake1981]

Originally Posted by robayon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not disagreeing but that's the second time I have seen you refer to Hollywood Left-Wing Ultra Violence.

What makes violence in movies left-wing? The victims of the violence? Can you clarify this term?

It helps to understand that Hollywood isn't Right-Wing. It's a political talking-point from before I was born, so you are probably aware of it, it's also a point to make jokes for as long as I can remember, so that probably isn't new to you either. There are a lot of examples of violence in films, including many of those from Hollywood or connected to Hollywood. Since Hollywood isn't culturally considered to be Right-Wing then it is simple to say it is Left-Wing. In the case of violence or indeed, Ultra Violence, then you simply add that after. This would indicated to anyone with a functioning brain that is from the USA to easily understand the reference being made.

Thanks, take care and have good one. Yours truly,
Mblake1981

[robayon]

Just because Hollywood is generally not right wing doesn't make them left wing. It depends. There's a lot of messaging packed into all of them, and I don't know how much is deliberate. Have you seen S. Craig Zahler movies?

I always liked the Disaster Movie trope, it's a real glimpse into the death drive of Americans. Obviously Americans arent the only ones making disaster movies, but we do make the best ones

There's a huge amount of shit to unpack in a lot of movies. Avengers films are chock full of mostly right-wing stereotypes, but so are the comics they're based on

[Mblake1981]

Originally Posted by robayon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just because Hollywood is generally not right wing doesn't make them left wing. It depends. There's a lot of messaging packed into all of them, and I don't know how much is deliberate. Have you seen S. Craig Zahler movies?

I always liked the Disaster Movie trope, it's a real glimpse into the death drive of Americans. Obviously Americans arent the only ones making disaster movies, but we do make the best ones

There's a huge amount of shit to unpack in a lot of movies. Avengers films are chock full of mostly right-wing stereotypes, but so are the comics they're based on

lol give me a break

edit:
Are you talking about Burt Reynolds? he brought film-making to Georgia, as whats-his-face once said.. Smokey and the Bandit is documentary. But even then it is still Left-Wing. It's acting and media, its a falsehood for entertainment or story telling. An imitation of life. Please stop this nonsense argument.

[robayon]

Originally Posted by Mblake1981 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol give me a break

edit:
Are you talking about Burt Reynolds? he brought film-making to Georgia, as whats-his-face once said.. Smokey and the Bandit is documentary. But even then it is still Left-Wing. It's acting and media, its a falsehood for entertainment or story telling. An imitation of life. Please stop this nonsense argument.

I don't think it's a stretch to say the ideological content of a movie or tv show depends heavily on the script and the director

So it depends on the movie or tv show. Right wing tropes not being as welcome in Hollywood now as they were fifty years ago is good for the bottom line because culture at large in America is liberal. Even the right wing dudes recognize this, otherwise they wouldn't be whining about how they can't express their white pride without consequences. They have to bake it into the crust of the film, they can't just openly say it like John Wayne used to

So, yeah, now movies still have shitloads of pro-police and pro-military arguments

You're probably mistaking neoliberalism for leftism. A common mistake (deliberate psyop) by conservatives online

[Mblake1981]

Originally Posted by robayon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think it's a stretch to say the ideological content of a movie or tv show depends heavily on the script and the director

So it depends on the movie or tv show. Right wing tropes not being as welcome in Hollywood now as they were fifty years ago is good for the bottom line because culture at large in America is liberal. Even the right wing dudes recognize this, otherwise they wouldn't be whining about how they can't express their white pride without consequences. They have to bake it into the crust of the film, they can't just openly say it like John Wayne used to

So, yeah, now movies still have shitloads of pro-police and pro-military arguments

You're probably mistaking neoliberalism for leftism. A common mistake (deliberate psyop) by conservatives online

Imagine being out in the middle of a forest and you see a man with a hard-hat and chainsaw, he is busy cutting down a tree. You stop him and share this argument with him, what do you think he would say?

[robayon]

Originally Posted by Mblake1981 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Imagine being out in the middle of a forest and you see a man with a hard-hat and chainsaw, he is busy cutting down a tree. You stop him and share this argument with him, what do you think he would say?

"SORRY COULDN'T HEAR YA OVER THE CHAINSAW... WHAT THE HELL YOU DOING OUT HERE?"