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Old 05-26-2022, 05:02 PM
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How do you know that "adfontesmedia.com" is unbiased and reliable, but that matt walsh's show isn't?

Here's a source btw, completely nuking the idea that this is a uniquely american problem. Again, you have to so drastically distort and cherry pick stats to make that case it becomes completely absurd. I've now provided an actual scientific paper; I look forward to your flailing about why it's totally bad and megawrong.

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers....act_id=3289010
I'm gonna read this whole thing tonight

It is pretty funny to have you complain about "unbiased and reliable" sources in the post where you show us a source, as asked, from a guy who is known as "The Gun Crowd's Guru". I smell a "arrive at a conclusion then go looking for sources to corroborate" scenario. Hope I'm wrong!

Anyways, that doesn't mean the data is wrong, so I'm not gonna throw it out based on your hypocrisy. But it's about five [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 05-26-2022, 05:08 PM
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It is pretty funny to have you complain about "unbiased and reliable" sources in the post where you show us a source, as asked, from a guy who is known as "The Gun Crowd's Guru". I smell a "arrive at a conclusion then go looking for sources to corroborate" scenario. Hope I'm wrong!

Anyways, that doesn't mean the data is wrong, so I'm not gonna throw it out based on your hypocrisy. But it's about five [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 05-26-2022, 10:04 PM
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I'm gonna read this whole thing tonight
Okay, Ooloo, I read your paper. I'm gonna be honest. I'm not a math expert but it seemed legit to me. Basic stats, right? But we should always be skeptical, it's generally a good idea, so I sought reactions to Lott's paper here. This is all just overlooking the possible bias and stuff, because whatever, this isn't debate club. I sling shit around too.

Now please read this one and let me know if you feel like taking the time to dig into the numbers to corroborate their claims that Lott's massaging the numbers for single-shooter incidents down a good bit domestically. Maybe that's accounted for in the international amounts, which Lott smartly admitted they don't have a complete set for, or didn't back when they compiled the data.

Or don't, your choice. Or find bias in this person, I don't have enough information either way for Lankford.

https://econjwatch.org/authors/adam-lankford
https://cj.ua.edu/people/adam-lankford/

Reaction paper to Lott's paper: https://econjwatch.org/File+download...f?mimetype=pdf
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