Thought Experiment: How Could Rotations Be Competitive?

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The problem with using a 7 day spawn mob is you are basically permanently locking the mob out from the guilds who can kill Sontalak. There could be a new guild tryout every week if it's one guild per week.

Or you would have to ask a GM to sit there for literally hours watching multiple guilds try to kill Sontalak over and over on a specified time. Good luck getting people to agree to either of those situations.

I wouldn't ask for them to agree. Defend(by killing!) the rotation gatekeeper from interlopers or lose your other mobs to the rotation starting next week.

There will be no unearned attempts or kills.

And no petitions for the other mobs.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I wouldn't ask for them to agree. Defend(by killing!) the rotation gatekeeper from interlopers or lose your other mobs to the rotation starting next week.

There will be no unearned attempts or kills.

And no petitions for the other mobs.

Then why have this system at all? I guess I don't understand your point. If your idea is "the winner gets the mob", then that is just normal Everquest without rotations lol.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Then why have this system at all? I guess I don't understand your point. If your idea is "the winner gets the mob", then that is just normal Everquest without rotations lol.

Because the topic of the thread is how to make rotations competitive. Not the specific details of the rotation itself.

Keep up, son. 😎🍦

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because the topic of the thread is how to make rotations competitive. Not the specific details of the rotation itself.

Keep up, son. ����

LOL true, if you just play Everquest without rotations, but say you are playing with rotations, then everybody is happy!

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

LOL true, if you just play Everquest without rotations, but say you are playing with rotations, then everybody is happy!

A qualified rotation is still a rotation.

Hammer out the rotation details on your own, I've answered the question.

It doesn't have to be Sontalak even, tier gatekeepers would fine if staff felt like doing 2 or 3 instead of 1.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A qualified rotation is still a rotation.

Hammer out the rotation details on your own, I've answered the question.

It doesn't have to be Sontalak even, tier gatekeepers would fine if staff felt like doing 2 or 3 instead of 1.

EDIT: If you are trying to say there is one single mob that is contested to give guilds the right to a rotation, that wouldn't work because it would just incentivize the biggest guild to get bigger and Zerg the target down every week. Then you would literally have just one big guild monopolizing the whole game because they are the only ones on the rotation. It wouldn't be the exact opposite of what is intended by suggesting rotations. That is why Vindi was used for a little bit as a "qualifier" mob, because it respawned every day at least. If the mob was on a weekly respawn, then the first guild to get on the "rotation" would spend all of it's energy keeping that specific target down, locking the rest of the server out of content. Vindi at least spawns every 8 hours, so it's harder to keep him down all the time. But Vindi isn't a super good indicator for how skilled a guild is, because he isn't super hard.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh, you were being serious? Your example is just "winner gets the mob". That is how it works without rotations. I am not sure why the "gatekeeper" mob is relevant, because whoever kills it gets "rotation rights". But if a different guild kills it every week, then you just keep switching "rotation rights", and there is no difference between not having rotations at all. What is the benefit of having "rotation rights" if you are still killing the mob every week?

Because you only have to kill the gatekeeper mob every X time to be on the rotation for other mobs for Y time.

I hope this helps with your pedantry. 👍