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[robayon]

Originally Posted by Homesteaded [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hypocrisy. Hates America but expects it to "save the world"

It's more a case of I can see its potential, but we're doing the wrong things with it

But feel free to deliberately absorb exactly the opposite message from my posts if you need to do so to prevent yourself from introspection

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by robayon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think you need to be careful when trying to approach a problem like "solve all abortion". Unless you're also willing to consider things like socialized healthcare, UBI, or the prison-industrial complex. Maybe you are. Great. I don't even believe in the idea of a federal government, but as long as it exists we should use it as the tool it can be.

I just don't think outlawing abortion will ever solve the "problem". It's way more complicated than just "dont kill babies". It's going to be a conveyor build that feeds the prison-industrial complex, at least if you can speak Republican as fluently as I can.

Abortion is an easier problem to solve than healthcare or the prison system, because it is completely within the woman's control to begin with.

Socialized health care doesn't really work. The only reason why other countries can do it "successfully" is because they don't have to spend money on medical RnD or Millitary. Why? Because America is doing the RnD, and protecting them Militarily. If America got Nuked off of the face of the planet, socialized health care in most countries would collapse.

[robayon]

Hubris

[starkind]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Abortion is an easier problem to solve than healthcare or the prison system, because it is completely within the woman's control to begin with.

Socialized health care doesn't really work. The only reason why other countries can do it "successfully" is because they don't have to spend money on medical RnD or Millitary. Why? Because America is doing the RnD, and protecting them Militarily. If America got Nuked off of the face of the planet, socialized health care in most countries would collapse.

Healthcare is super simple. No more insurance companies. Or regulating medicine and drugs.. Ever. Gg.

No more drug patents either. We don't need new medications.

BP medicine for example is a panacea not a cure. Every pharmaceutical is pretty much a panacea for dumb shit we did or allowed done to us and our environment.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by starkind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Healthcare is super simple. No more insurance companies. Or regulating medicine and drugs.. Ever. Gg.

No more drug patents either. We don't need new medications.

I completely agree insurance companies need to be reformed. But if just removing them was that simple, we would see other countries doing a better job of medial RnD. America is still the leader when it comes to medical advancement, as we give better incentives to companies to take risks and develop new medical advancements. When a government has a fixed pool of money for healthcare, you just don't have enough money to pay for RnD and pay for healthcare at the same time.

[starkind]

No one removes them because they control the country and are completely intermingled with the food corps and USDA aswell.

[starkind]

Humans wouldn't get sick if we where all of us G-dly.

Build the giant 10 commandments mechs.

Sound the Trumpet.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by starkind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No one removes them because they control the country and are completely intermingled with the food corps and USDA aswell.

Again, other countries don't have them, so we should see them doing much better in all areas of the medical industry. But we do not. They subsidize the healthcare simply because it is cheaper to buy medical advancements from America, and they can dump a lot of their military money back into healthcare because they assume America will assist them in a time of war.

[MrSparkle001]

Medical RnD is fueled by profit and without the profit it would stifle and regress.

Not that I agree that how it's done now is best but we are nowhere near advanced enough as a species to invest in medical RnD for humanitarian reasons. The pursuit of the almighty dollar fuels it all.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by starkind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're an idiot if you think outlawing abortion and devoting all your focus on it will save any life or stop any murderer.

CDC Abortion Surveillance — United States, 2019

Results: A total of 629,898 abortions for 2019 were reported to CDC from 49 reporting areas.