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Old 04-13-2022, 04:37 PM
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Seal Team earned the right to do this, just as Rampage did. The only thing that bothers me is someone like Jutebox who, over on blue, cried for years about how my guilds locked content down and they don't want to play our style of play etc etc to the point of forcing one of the dumbest things to ever happen to P99: The Draft.

And yet there he is, on Green, in Seal Team who has done exactly what he supposedly despised and probably worse than any other guild ever did on blue.

Fake people and hypocrites are the worst type of people.
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Old 04-13-2022, 04:40 PM
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Seal Team earned the right to do this, just as Rampage did.
I don’t think a single soul actually says they didn’t earn it by way of playing the game we all understand are playing. But the angles are cheesy and stupid. Like, they should just directly admit they had the best situation and worked it to your advantage, and are sick of socking the game and wanna trash the museum on the way out. No one can clown them on that cuz it’s real.
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Old 04-13-2022, 04:49 PM
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I don’t think a single soul actually says they didn’t earn it by way of playing the game we all understand are playing. But the angles are cheesy and stupid. Like, they should just directly admit they had the best situation and worked it to your advantage, and are sick of socking the game and wanna trash the museum on the way out. No one can clown them on that cuz it’s real.
Ok so it seems you have some logical common sense.

Why would a guild do any of that? Game doesn’t stop post sleeper. Green isn’t even in chardok 2.0 yet. Everyone has this idea that ST is going to die because rampage did. Which they might, or they might not. Doesn’t mean the game stops, just priorities. Competition doesn’t go away, come quake or windows you still going to see sock’s and RTE.
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Old 04-13-2022, 05:03 PM
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Ok so it seems you have some logical common sense.

Why would a guild do any of that? Game doesn’t stop post sleeper. Green isn’t even in chardok 2.0 yet. Everyone has this idea that ST is going to die because rampage did. Which they might, or they might not. Doesn’t mean the game stops, just priorities. Competition doesn’t go away, come quake or windows you still going to see sock’s and RTE.
Why would a guild's mouthpiece tell the truth about their state of affairs? I dunno, pride? Denial? The members of a guild never lie, they say the truth its plain as day.

Truth is, a reason for this would have been found regardless. No matter what propa I see slung as the reason, like you said something about 'cheating' at raid targets etc. Theres any number of spins. They are all irrelevant when the truth is plainly stated by its members. I'm just glad its a concerted and conscious decision with a tag and names tied to it.

I doubt your guild will die, why would the guild who gets every Vulak ever die? You can split the loot with any number of starving guilds that exist on the server. The only thing that will really die is all the OG members and friends who get what they want or are sick of working hard to see things go to the warm body ally.

I do see a future with competition slowly dying, though, now that the priorities change from "keep out of sleeper's" to "keep out of the rest" but maybe I'll be wrong.
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Old 04-13-2022, 04:40 PM
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Seal Team earned the right to do this, just as Rampage did. The only thing that bothers me is someone like Jutebox who, over on blue, cried for years about how my guilds locked content down and they don't want to play our style of play etc etc to the point of forcing one of the dumbest things to ever happen to P99: The Draft.

And yet there he is, on Green, in Seal Team who has done exactly what he supposedly despised and probably worse than any other guild ever did on blue.

Fake people and hypocrites are the worst type of people.
i thought the draft was because of lavitzz.

you guys gotta work on your story lines a little more and make sure the continuity dept. has vetted them.
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Old 04-13-2022, 05:17 PM
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Seal Team earned the right to do this, just as Rampage did. The only thing that bothers me is someone like Jutebox who, over on blue, cried for years about how my guilds locked content down and they don't want to play our style of play etc etc to the point of forcing one of the dumbest things to ever happen to P99: The Draft.

And yet there he is, on Green, in Seal Team who has done exactly what he supposedly despised and probably worse than any other guild ever did on blue.

Fake people and hypocrites are the worst type of people.
Tears so salty, tears so sweet.

Guess you didn't get the memo that the draft is loved on Blue, and who says I don't support it on Green? However, this is no apples to apples comparison. Blue is 7 years into Velious. Rampage rekt you and woke the Sleeper years ago, dooming you to an eternity of trying to get revenge on everyone else by denying them content. Blue is all the way at the end of timeline. I think its OK to do a draft 4 times a year under those conditions. However, if people put in the hard work, organized, and instituted a draft on Green, you wouldn't see me opposing it. Hell, they can even use the ruleset I wrote! Its open source [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My objection was never to dabbling in a end-game/hardcore competitive guild. It was submitting to asshole leaders that resort to cheating, like those in Vanquish. Hard pass on that! I don't regret my decision to experience warders, and now I guess I'll get to be part of the team waking the Sleeper. You can ask anyone in Seal Team and they will tell you that I tried to convince them to do a server-wide agreement to keep the Sleeper asleep. But in the end, it is the prisoner's dilemma, and fears that someone will wake it, no matter what, are authentic and amount to legitimate concerns.

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Old 04-13-2022, 06:02 PM
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Tears so salty, tears so sweet.

Guess you didn't get the memo that the draft is loved on Blue, and who says I don't support it on Green? However, this is no apples to apples comparison. Blue is 7 years into Velious. Rampage rekt you and woke the Sleeper years ago, dooming you to an eternity of trying to get revenge on everyone else by denying them content. Blue is all the way at the end of timeline. I think its OK to do a draft 4 times a year under those conditions. However, if people put in the hard work, organized, and instituted a draft on Green, you wouldn't see me opposing it. Hell, they can even use the ruleset I wrote! Its open source [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My objection was never to dabbling in a end-game/hardcore competitive guild. It was submitting to asshole leaders that resort to cheating, like those in Vanquish. Hard pass on that! I don't regret my decision to experience warders, and now I guess I'll get to be part of the team waking the Sleeper. You can ask anyone in Seal Team and they will tell you that I tried to convince them to do a server-wide agreement to keep the Sleeper asleep. But in the end, it is the prisoner's dilemma, and fears that someone will wake it, no matter what, are authentic and amount to legitimate concerns.

Hope that helps.

-Jutebox
Lol you did your guild on blue real proud Jutebox. Join the "cheaters" on green, become a hypocrite and then just leave your shit Kittens guild to kill nothing for the 10 years of their existence.

Couldnt beat anyone on blue, ran to Green to flex his napoleon complex and now brags like hes something while leaving a legacy of utter garbage behind on blue.

Ill take my history over your pathetic attempts to lead a guild and blue and your coattail riding on Green anyday, my friend. At least I didnt sell out and abandon my guildies to go to another P99 server and actually kill dragons.
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Old 04-13-2022, 06:09 PM
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At least I didnt sell out and abandon my guildies to go to another P99 server and actually kill dragons.
yeah you went to classic wow instead.
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Old 04-13-2022, 06:49 PM
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yeah you went to classic wow instead.
And got LOL'd out of TAKP.
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Old 04-13-2022, 08:37 PM
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Lol you did your guild on blue real proud Jutebox. Join the "cheaters" on green, become a hypocrite and then just leave your shit Kittens guild to kill nothing for the 10 years of their existence.

Couldnt beat anyone on blue, ran to Green to flex his napoleon complex and now brags like hes something while leaving a legacy of utter garbage behind on blue.

Ill take my history over your pathetic attempts to lead a guild and blue and your coattail riding on Green anyday, my friend. At least I didnt sell out and abandon my guildies to go to another P99 server and actually kill dragons.
lol, Kittens killed Tunare on Saturday (after clearing the whole zone, I should add). I was there kiting for them, but you can ask them if they think I've "abandoned" them. In fact, it seems that Kittens has killed every encounter in the game now. Not so bad for what started as a simple leveling guild. And because of your toxicity, CSR's ingenuity, and the leadership of other guilds on the server, we're enjoying the draft every four months. So thank you, Detoxx. I give you a lot of credit for helping bring forth the draft. Probably couldn't have done it without you.

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