EQ vs WoW

[Teako]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Damn, yea, that is a lot of pvp. Props on rank 14. It is one of the most difficult grinds ever created in MMO history, and definitely caused a lot of burnout

I hit rank 14 back when I played vanilla. I continued to keep playing after long enough to crank out some pvp vids, I’ll link the last vid I made, it has some blackrock action. I never wanted to do that grind again, so when I played classic I only did pvp casually, mostly solo BG’s

World pvp is fun but it’s hard to get fair fights. Never been into lopsided encounters either where we are steamrolling or getting steamrolled due to huge number differences. Was more into competitive BG’s and then later arenas in TBC

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=

Did you really make a montage of playing a hunter in PvP during the time set where hunters were the single strongest class in all aspects of PvP? Where scat/trap had quite literally no counterplay on a 15 second CD that started immediately with a 10s duration and no DR - leaving 5 seconds of window to attack per scat/trap + aimed+mana drain or aimed+conc directly into another scat-trap for unreturnable damage? Even playing a Troll so you had free hit% and berserking for burst windows in PvP? You literally min/maxed the most braindead class in the entire game.. then made montages out of it. The only way I would respect this even less is if you had continued making the same videos into TBC where Hunters got even easier to play.

Oh honey. No. Just no. When you bowl with the bumpers on you don't get a trophy for bowling a 300.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Teako [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did you really make a montage of playing a hunter in PvP during the time set where hunters were the single strongest class in all aspects of PvP? Where scat/trap had quite literally no counterplay on a 15 second CD that started immediately with a 10s duration and no DR - leaving 5 seconds of window to attack per scat/trap + aimed+mana drain or aimed+conc directly into another scat-trap for unreturnable damage? Even playing a Troll so you had free hit% and berserking for burst windows in PvP? You literally min/maxed the most braindead class in the entire game.. then made montages out of it. The only way I would respect this even less is if you had continued making the same videos into TBC where Hunters got even easier to play.

Oh honey. No. Just no. When you bowl with the bumpers on you don't get a trophy for bowling a 300.

Orc is better min/max race for the stun resistance. Scatter trap had DR with each other in 1.12 when I filmed that

What else? Oh yeah I was top 10 ranked in 3v3 and rank 1 in 5v5 TBC where our team had around a 90% winrate. For a short while we had the highest 5v5 rank out of US, EU, and Asia servers

Cry on

[Teako]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Orc is better min/max race for the stun resistance. Scatter trap had DR with each other in 1.12 when I filmed that

What else? Oh yeah I was top 10 ranked in 3v3 and rank 1 in 5v5 TBC where our team had around a 90% winrate. For a short while we had the highest 5v5 rank out of US, EU, and Asia servers

Cry on

Literally everything you said in your triple cry post was wrong. Original classic viper sting was not treated as a DoT tick and didn't break freeze.

Your video shows you able to double scat trap more efficiently, you just didn't play smart enough to do it. You can literally see it the entire video, freeze trap hits for 9s with 15s cd and 6s on scat with no DR, giving a 5s window of dps once aimed shot lands out of trap.. You just weren't good enough.

Stun resist is irrelevant compared to maxing hit with racial + scope and not having to prio it at all on any gear - especially if you participate in the barest minimum of pve content.

TBC hunter is quite literally memed as the easiest of all things to play in the entirety of gaming history. It was one button, with zero movement required. There's videos of a person throwing marshmellows at their keyboard bound to a steady shot arcane shot macro and hitting Gladiator.

I gladiatored twice as Rogue, twice as Hunter, once as Warrior, and once as DK before WOTLK end. People who are talented don't make videos showing them utilizing the broken class to beat people in generic pvp scenarios, they stay focused on improving. I literally won two AGC's in WOTLK.

Best pet in TBC was never scorpid.. Shows how mid you were. Lightning blast from wind serpents ignored LOS and scaled with ranged AP. Could also KC from ranged outside of LOS if it was casting lightning blast when you used the ability in classic. It was not just known, it was wildly known and used by every gladiator hunter because killing through LOS is king.

Also, Hunters were/are quite literally the top dps class in TBC both original and re-launch.. utilizing one button. There's no "50 button pet micromanagement" setup. You're just stupid.

Honestly, you're a really weird dude.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Teako [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Literally everything you said in your triple cry post was wrong. Original classic viper sting was not treated as a DoT tick and didn't break freeze.

Your video shows you able to double scat trap more efficiently, you just didn't play smart enough to do it. You can literally see it the entire video, freeze trap hits for 9s with 15s cd and 6s on scat with no DR, giving a 5s window of dps once aimed shot lands out of trap.. You just weren't good enough.

Stun resist is irrelevant compared to maxing hit with racial + scope and not having to prio it at all on any gear - especially if you participate in the barest minimum of pve content.

TBC hunter is quite literally memed as the easiest of all things to play in the entirety of gaming history. It was one button, with zero movement required. There's videos of a person throwing marshmellows at their keyboard bound to a steady shot arcane shot macro and hitting Gladiator.

I gladiatored twice as Rogue, twice as Hunter, once as Warrior, and once as DK before WOTLK end. People who are talented don't make videos showing them utilizing the broken class to beat people in generic pvp scenarios, they stay focused on improving. I literally won two AGC's in WOTLK.

Best pet in TBC was never scorpid.. Shows how mid you were. Lightning blast from wind serpents ignored LOS and scaled with ranged AP. Could also KC from ranged outside of LOS if it was casting lightning blast when you used the ability in classic. It was not just known, it was wildly known and used by every gladiator hunter because killing through LOS is king.

Also, Hunters were/are quite literally the top dps class in TBC both original and re-launch.. utilizing one button. There's no "50 button pet micromanagement" setup. You're just stupid.

Honestly, you're a really weird dude.

Lol viper has always broke freezing trap. You never in the history of WoW been able to freeze trap a target and drain them oom with viper without them being able to move. It’s a lie. If you want to pay me $15 I can fire up my WoW account and log in my classic char and prove it

Nm, here you go “Serpent Sting and Viper Sting will break the trap early but Scorpid Sting will not. While still a good practice, it is no longer necessary to call off your pet for a Freezing Trap or any CC which can be broken by damage”

https://vanilla-wow-archive.fandom.c...g_Trap#General

Scattershot is a 4a disorient not a 6s

What else are you wrong about. Scorpid was the pet in TBC for competitive arenas. I would know, like I said I’m a 2 time gladiator and top 10 ranked in 3v3 and rank 1 in 5c5 What’s your credentials again? Care to actually prove any?

Hunters were one of the lowest represented dps classes in top ranked arenas. The number one was rogue, then mage, then lock, then war, THEN hunter. The top represented 3v3 team at above 2200 rating was RMP, then RLD, then WLD. Weird, considering you think hunters are both OP and easy to play, odd that they had such low representation

I used 55 hotkeys TOTAL, not all for pet

You don’t know shit about WoW pvp. You’ve always sucked at it at and were a no name scrub in arenas

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by Teako [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Literally everything you said in your triple cry post was wrong. Original classic viper sting was not treated as a DoT tick and didn't break freeze.

Your video shows you able to double scat trap more efficiently, you just didn't play smart enough to do it. You can literally see it the entire video, freeze trap hits for 9s with 15s cd and 6s on scat with no DR, giving a 5s window of dps once aimed shot lands out of trap.. You just weren't good enough.

Stun resist is irrelevant compared to maxing hit with racial + scope and not having to prio it at all on any gear - especially if you participate in the barest minimum of pve content.

TBC hunter is quite literally memed as the easiest of all things to play in the entirety of gaming history. It was one button, with zero movement required. There's videos of a person throwing marshmellows at their keyboard bound to a steady shot arcane shot macro and hitting Gladiator.

I gladiatored twice as Rogue, twice as Hunter, once as Warrior, and once as DK before WOTLK end. People who are talented don't make videos showing them utilizing the broken class to beat people in generic pvp scenarios, they stay focused on improving. I literally won two AGC's in WOTLK.

Best pet in TBC was never scorpid.. Shows how mid you were. Lightning blast from wind serpents ignored LOS and scaled with ranged AP. Could also KC from ranged outside of LOS if it was casting lightning blast when you used the ability in classic. It was not just known, it was wildly known and used by every gladiator hunter because killing through LOS is king.

Also, Hunters were/are quite literally the top dps class in TBC both original and re-launch.. utilizing one button. There's no "50 button pet micromanagement" setup. You're just stupid.

Honestly, you're a really weird dude.

Guy knows what hes talking about from a pvp perspective.

Not top dps in pve though. Hope this helps.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Guy knows what hes talking about from a pvp perspective.

Not top dps in pve though. Hope this helps.

He’s wrong on every point he tried to make. Wrong about viper not breaking freezing, wrong on SS duration, wrong on freezing/ss dr, wrong on arena pet. Wrong on hunter arena representation. Wrong on their being a video of a hunter throwing marshmallows at a keyboard to get gladiator

Still interested to see proof of his titles