whole lotta vaccine injuries

[Whale biologist]

Originally Posted by Gravydoo II [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, thats a lie they tell service people. You still have all your rights. You still have legal counsel. You still have ALL your rights. You're just subject to two legal systems. The UCMJ and the federal or state system depending on your crime.


You agreed to obey as long as it does not break the law. Thats the agreement. Shots are not against the law.

If you dont like shots, dont join the military. So that means most of the people on this forum would be or are unfit to serve in any capacity. Pussies.

Can UCMJ lock you up in a cage?

[Gravydoo II]

Originally Posted by Whale biologist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can UCMJ lock you up in a cage?

Yep. They have brigs on ships, bases, pretty much every military base has a small prison facility. Also, fort levenworth is a prison for military dudes. I went to the brig, once. lol.

Might as well just tell the story. So, I had a bigass knife because my job required you to have a bigass knife. Literally, entire dept, hundreds of people, carrying bigass folding knifes, non-issue for years. I change dept, get different job, bring bigass cold steel folding tanto 5.5" blade. New job requires cutting of 2-3mm thick zip ties. Use bigass knife for months, finally once day an MP walks up to me as im doing my shit. He grabs my arm and is like "thats a weapon" and arrested me, like while im at work, doing some top secret shit. Yeah I had a 212 or whatever that card is, you had to have it for the spaces we operated in. The top secret one to handle sensitive documents, etc.

So yeah, its just a little fucking room with bars. I was kept there until this fucking idiot was slapped down by my dept head. Fucking idoits charged me! I went to see the capt, CMC, all that shit. They didnt punish me though because they knew it was a grey area. There is no rule that says "you can have a knife but not a bigass knife".

[Whale biologist]

Originally Posted by Gravydoo II [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yep. They have brigs on ships, bases, pretty much every military base has a small prison facility. Also, fort levenworth is a prison for military dudes. I went to the brig, once. lol.

Ok. Can they lock you up for stuff a civilian wouldn't locked up for?

[Gravydoo II]

Originally Posted by Whale biologist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok. Can they lock you up for stuff a civilian wouldn't locked up for?

Yes and no. Its really depends on the MP. If they really want to be dicks, you can be arrested for everything that a civilian can, under the UCMJ. The only difference is did you do it on base, in uniform, or to another member of the military.

If you assaulted a civilian, you'd have to go through both legal processes. So you'd get punished from your command, then a judge would punish you as a civilian, because you still have your rights.

The thing that comes to mind is like, MAYBE you could get locked up for severely disrespecting your CO or XO, saying treacherous things, making yourself look like a spy. Other than that, all the laws are pretty much the same. Assault, stealing, abuse of power, it is just handled internally when they can. The military hates a headline more than anything.

remember JAG? the tv show?