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Old 11-16-2021, 05:43 PM
Vianna Vianna is offline
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Why do we have ANY raid rules, except respect FTE, and follow the PNP.

Park a raid force at doze, who cares.
Camp your toons at trak, who cares.
Claim tormax's room as a camp and claim him, who cares.

PNP covers every possibility. If a guild wants to sit at yelinak and do nothing for 4 days 'camping it'...go for it. Zero reason for raid rules, they lose yeli if they leave to go elsewhere and someone claims it.

Whole idea of raid rules is arbitrary and outdated. We had no rules on p99 many times, while maintaining PNP. Never have we not respected FTE, except for a 4 week period in VP, once. We had no PNP for a 6 week period in VP, once. Those times were epic but unsustainable.

The period of no rules worked fine, most of velious start had zero raid rules, worked fine.
Because a big enough guild would sit at and camp most of the important spawns and lock them down. You don't want that poopsock nightmare.
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Old 11-16-2021, 08:02 PM
Solist Solist is offline
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Because a big enough guild would sit at and camp most of the important spawns and lock them down. You don't want that poopsock nightmare.
You didn't read.

The PNP does not allow you to claim more than one camp, when there is competition.

A big guild is forced to concede by the rules, a camp of their choice.

So let vanquish sit a group on tormax's throne, and one at dozekar. If TSS say they want one of them, vanq has to let one go. Job done.

Cycle repeats, until people run out of groups to sit on spawns, time to poopsock etc.

There is zero need for raid rules when the PNP exists, as it has existed since day 1 of P1999. It's just not ever been enforced.
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Old 11-16-2021, 10:15 PM
Vianna Vianna is offline
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You didn't read.

The PNP does not allow you to claim more than one camp, when there is competition.

A big guild is forced to concede by the rules, a camp of their choice.

So let vanquish sit a group on tormax's throne, and one at dozekar. If TSS say they want one of them, vanq has to let one go. Job done.

Cycle repeats, until people run out of groups to sit on spawns, time to poopsock etc.

There is zero need for raid rules when the PNP exists, as it has existed since day 1 of P1999. It's just not ever been enforced.
You aren't understanding the rules. The only rule is you can't have multiple FTEs in the PNP. It doesn't say your guild can't have multiple camps. You are looking at the rules for groups.
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