Probably time for a Kyle Rittenhouse thread.

[Bardp1999]

Ive seen the Rittenhouse video and the kid looks pretty innocent to me. He put himself in a terrible situation but those guys chasing him would have beat him to death or made him retarded for the rest of his life.

If you try to disarm another man expect to get shot, not sure why he is even on trial honestly - i think one of the guys he shot was literally pointing a pistol at him

[Botten]

Originally Posted by Bardp1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ive seen the Rittenhouse video and the kid looks pretty innocent to me. He put himself in a terrible situation but those guys chasing him would have beat him to death or made him retarded for the rest of his life.

If you try to disarm another man expect to get shot, not sure why he is even on trial honestly - i think one of the guys he shot was literally pointing a pistol at him

Would you also agree that at any point after Rittenhouse drew his gun, that Anthony Huber, had he had a gun, could've shot and killed Rittenhouse, due to a justifiable fear for his life (after all, Huber did die, so Huber should've been in fear for his life)? So no matter who successfully shot the other, the winner should get let off without penalty?

Situations where you intentionally put yourself in harms way or are part of the escalation just shouldn't be considered "self-defense" or you get all sorts of situations where somebody has been shot killed after an escalating argument between two armed people, but nobody did anything illegal because they both rightfully feared for their lives. Duels would be legal too. "If I hadn't shot him, I would've been kill"... okay, but you put yourself into that situation.

It's just not self-defense when you play a role in getting into or creating the situation, which Rittenhouse did both of these things (both by being there with a gun with an asking for trouble attitude and also due to the escalation with the victim too)
And we know that Rittenhouse intentionally put himself into harm's way because he said as much:

Kyle: “So, people are getting injured, and our job is to protect this business. Part of my job is also to help people. If there is somebody hurt, I'm running into harm's way. That's why I have my rifle, because I have to protect myself, obviously. I also have my med kit.”

If it wasn’t for the bias judge I think the jury would not have been as manipulated. Why would the judge allow a literal applause of any defense testimony in front of the jurors while allowing bad mouthing while he does not want to call the deceased victims.

Then he gleefully sits on the bench ordering cookies and allowing his Trump ring tone to sound during the case.

[Duik]

Originally Posted by Bardp1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ive seen the Rittenhouse video and the kid looks pretty innocent to me. He put himself in a terrible situation but those guys chasing him would have beat him to death or made him retarded for the rest of his life.

If you try to disarm another man expect to get shot, not sure why he is even on trial honestly - i think one of the guys he shot was literally pointing a pistol at him

Disarm a boy don't you mean? Nvm, we have all forgotten he was a boy, anyhow, he did nothing wrong. Spose you could say he was perfect and there was good people on both sides. The is hilarious

[walfreyydo]

1) Grosskruetz could have shot Rittenhouse and he would have gotten off on self defense in the exact same way the Rittenhouse is likely to.

2) Rittenhouse could have hit an innocent bystander with any of those shots he took and could have gotten charged and convicted for reckless homicide

There are a million different possible outcomes that could have happened that night. Rittenhouse is extremely lucky to have escaped with his life and didnt wound or kill any innocent bystanders. He is extremely lucky.

The lesson here is two fold: guns will only destabilize a situation and make it more dangerous. Secondly, the police are the best equipped to handle these situations. We don't need everyday citizens arming themselves and getting in the way of police.

[Whale biologist]

Originally Posted by walfreyydo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

2) Rittenhouse could have hit an innocent bystander with any of those shots he took and could have gotten charged and convicted for reckless homicide

There are a million different possible outcomes that could have happened that night. Rittenhouse is extremely lucky to have escaped with his life and didnt wound or kill any innocent bystanders. He is extremely lucky.

Counts 2 and 5: First-degree recklessly endangering safety

[starkind]

Originally Posted by Whale biologist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Counts 2 and 5: First-degree recklessly endangering safety

ya i think so too and that is quite fair

the other guys were just as culpable, two wrongs do not make a right, nor absolve Kyle's contribution.