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Old 11-09-2021, 06:53 PM
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Wondering if the server files for p99 are ever going to be available for download. Obviously you’ve done 10+ years of work to get p99 as accurate as possible, but being non-profit I question your motives for keeping the files so close to chest.

Personally, my dream is to start a server with only my OG guild from the 90s. These servers are simply too populated by poopsockers, and way over-camped to really enjoy anything. That dream includes p99’s coding, in all honesty. Will this ever be a possibility?

Not hopeful— but curious. Thanks.
EQEmu dev here.

P99 is based off of a ~2009 fork from EQEmu. Not sure what you mean by "I question your motives". Releasing their source/DB would be suicide for the project as there would be tons of people like you running P99 clones that have zero idea what they're doing.

I'm not sure why so many people feel entitled to P99's data but we get this sentiment on a regular basis over at EQEmu.

Nothing is stopping you from forking the source and starting your own P99. In fact it has literally never been easier to start up your own project.. You'd have a much easier go of it than they did ~10 years ago.
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Old 11-09-2021, 09:31 PM
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Releasing their source/DB would be suicide for the project as there would be tons of people like you running P99 clones that have zero idea what they're doing.
Stop with the doom & gloom. Players that enjoy p99 would stay on p99. If p99 clones were run by idiots, then people would return to p99. Your contradictory logic makes zero sense. It’s a decade+ established community, here. There wouldn’t be anything close to a rival to p99, and nobody has that intent in the first place if you actually read our reasoning.

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I'm not sure why so many people feel entitled to P99's data but we get this sentiment on a regular basis over at EQEmu.
First off, I do not feel entitled. You assume entirely too much. I said multiple times I’m just curious. Secondly, the devs here have sourced us players for a decade+ in order to get the programming down pat. It’s not that farfetched to ask if we’ll ever have access to use the DB we helped build.

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Nothing is stopping you from forking the source and starting your own P99. In fact it has literally never been easier to start up your own project.. You'd have a much easier go of it than they did ~10 years ago.
I’ve been a programmer for 25 years. It has never been hard to start one’s own server. You know exactly why we want p99’s DB. It’s true to classic. You also know it would be pretty impossible to replicate as a solo project, as this is a decade+ community project.

Again, you contradict yourself saying it would be a disaster if people didn’t know what they were doing, but also “it’s never been easier.” Right then — you’ve made your obligatory contrarian/condescending comment, I hope you got your jollies. Please move along.
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