whole lotta vaccine injuries

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by starkind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Police departments and cities should be responsible for the damage they allow drunks and meth heads 2 do.

Better system than the police shooting your dog then charging you for the ammo!

[starkind]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Better system than the police shooting your dog then charging you for the ammo!

Yep. Police departments need to be responsible for damages and medical bills period.

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Better system than the police shooting your dog then charging you for the ammo!

This is stupid. Police aren't going out wanting to shoot dogs. Generally speaking they don't want to shoot anybody. They are doing a job that the rest of us don't want to do, and then we spit on them when they make a mistake, while enjoying the protection they provide.

If you have a problem with cops, go become a cop and show them how to do it right.

[starkind]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is stupid. Police aren't going out wanting to shoot dogs. Generally speaking they don't want to shoot anybody. They are doing a job that the rest of us don't want to do, and then we spit on them when they make a mistake, while enjoying the protection they provide.

If you have a problem with cops, go become a cop and show them how to do it right.

I have a problem with the government and it is often immune and shielded from the results of its own mismanagement.

Cops would have it better as individuals under the stated system because they would have better scope. Citizens would be more self reliant and cops would likely be better trained and used less when two neighbors were just being dumb.

Cities and neighborhoods would have to solve their slum problems not just offload it to cops through more hours, extra work load.

I'm talking about holding the city responsible. Not the cops. Cities that can't function should fail and be replaced by those that can solve these problems.

Citizens do not have a "right to a corrupt city " like LA that grinds its cops and citizens to dust for profits for a few elites.

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by starkind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have a problem with the government and it is often immune and shielded from the results of its own mismanagement.

Cops would have it better as individuals under the stated system because they would have better scope. Citizens would be more self reliant and cops would likely be better trained and used less when two neighbors were just being dumb.

Oh I totally agree, I'm not saying cops are perfect, they're human beings and they do make mistakes like the rest of us. And I'm certainly no fan of criminal cops getting away with things. They need more money though, so they can be better trained in non-lethal restraint. "Banning choke holds" is one of the dumbest policies ever. Properly-applied choke holds are one of the safest ways to restrain somebody without having to fire a taser or a bullet. Meanwhile "Defund the police" basically just means "I want more crime". It's moronic.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by starkind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have a problem with the government and it is often immune and shielded from the results of its own mismanagement.

Cops would have it better as individuals under the stated system because they would have better scope. Citizens would be more self reliant and cops would likely be better trained and used less when two neighbors were just being dumb.

Cities and neighborhoods would have to solve their slum problems not just offload it to cops through more hours, extra work load.

I'm talking about holding the city responsible. Not the cops. Cities that can't function should fail and be replaced by those that can solve these problems.

Citizens do not have a "right to a corrupt city " like LA that grinds its cops and citizens to dust for profits for a few elites.

Not just immune and shielded from the results of its own mismanagement, but actively incentivised.

Hard to be a good cop when funding is issued for being bad.

@Ooloo: while not a US city cop, I have some experience in enforcement as an operative for the inland waterways authority so I have got my feet wet, in a sense, with ornery boaters and river pirates [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] . Didn't shoot any dogs and never did have any luck catching those swans though.

[TheBardo]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is stupid. Police aren't going out wanting to shoot dogs. Generally speaking they don't want to shoot anybody. They are doing a job that the rest of us don't want to do, and then we spit on them when they make a mistake, while enjoying the protection they provide.

If you have a problem with cops, go become a cop and show them how to do it right.

Don’t call other people stupid ooolooo I genuinely Thai kitchen

[Shawk]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you have a problem with cops, go become a cop and show them how to do it right.

[Ennewi]

That sounds great in a very DIY kind of way, but go to anyone's workplace, show them how you can do it better and see how well that goes over. It makes even less sense when applied to other occupations. "If you have a problem with prostitutes, go become a prostitute and show them how to do it right."

Yes, it's easy to criticize especially without firsthand experience, but criticism comes with doing anything. People will have a problem with just about anything, thinking that their problem with it is a solution. Sometimes it is at least part of a solution.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Ennewi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That sounds great in a very DIY kind of way, but go to anyone's workplace, show them how you can do it better and see how well that goes over. It makes even less sense when applied to other occupations. "If you have a problem with prostitutes, go become a prostitute and show them how to do it right."

Yes, it's easy to criticize especially without firsthand experience, but criticism comes with doing anything. People will have a problem with just about anything, thinking that their problem with it is a solution. Sometimes it is at least part of a solution.

It’s more to mean that most of America isn’t willing to die doing their job

Police die horribly quite a bit more often than, say, an accountant

It’s more calling America cowards. And I agree