2nd Class Citizens

[walfreyydo]

Originally Posted by Homesteaded [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So there isn't any risk reward calculation for you? It's as simple as stop the spread at all costs?

Not when over 150 million people have taken the vaccine with extremely low number of documented cases of side effects. No documented side effect has been shown past 6 weeks for any vaccine. Ever. Most of that 150 million is in the clear.

The vaccine is safe, there is no risk reward calculation. If you want to believe some conspiracy theorist on Telegram trying to get more followers, or some quack pot "doctor" more obsessed with getting attention/influence than actually helping people, thats fine, just dont say theres a risk/reward calculation. There is no risk.

People who have a legitimate medical condition (extremely small percentage of people) and cant take the vaccine should then be wearing masks and getting tested regularly. Dont use them as your straw man about why YOU dont want to take the vaccine.

Just admit the reason you dont want the vaccine is because you have fallen victim to the politicization that the right has created around not only the virus, but everything else. (PRO TIP: Thats how they get you to do things against your own self interest, by the way). Everyone knows it, so you dont need to hide it anymore.

[BlackBellamy]

Originally Posted by walfreyydo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not when over 150 million people have taken the vaccine with extremely low number of documented cases of side effects. No documented side effect has been shown past 6 weeks for any vaccine. Ever. Most of that 150 million is in the clear.

The vaccine is safe, there is no risk reward calculation.

The Pfizer vaccine causes 143 strokes per 10 million doses. With 220 million doses administered, Pfizer has caused around 3100 strokes.

When you divide 10,000,000 by 143 you get 69,930.

That's 1 in 69,930.

Have you ever player poker and drew a straight flush? The odds of that happening are 1 in 72,192.

There's your risk/reward calculation.

The vaccine is not safe. It's a risk like anything in life. You'll never draw a straight flush if you don't sit at the table.

I'm not saying do or don't get the vaccine. I am saying that like everything in life there is a risk, and it's significant enough where people are making that risk/reward calculation as they should be.

[Horza]

Originally Posted by BlackBellamy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The Pfizer vaccine causes 143 strokes per 10 million doses. With 220 million doses administered, Pfizer has caused around 3100 strokes.

When you divide 10,000,000 by 143 you get 69,930.

That's 1 in 69,930.

Have you ever player poker and drew a straight flush? The odds of that happening are 1 in 72,192.

There's your risk/reward calculation.

The vaccine is not safe. It's a risk like anything in life. You'll never draw a straight flush if you don't sit at the table.

I'm not saying do or don't get the vaccine. I am saying that like everything in life there is a risk, and it's significant enough where people are making that risk/reward calculation as they should be.

Why do Trumptards like yourself act like there isn't a pandemic still raging across much of the country that may also pose health risks?

[BlackBellamy]

Originally Posted by Horza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why do Trumptards like yourself act like there isn't a pandemic still raging across much of the country that may also pose health risks?

Yeah you don't know anything about my political beliefs as I have never shared them. To call me names because I posted scientifically accurate information about vaccine risks says more about your politics and frame of mind I think.

Let me pose a hypothetical. Lets suppose a child in your town is dying and the only donor match is you. When asked, you said no I would like to keep all my liver. Does the government have the right to compel you out of inaction and subject you to a medical procedure against your will?

I'm assuming you'll answer yes, for the greater good.

[Horza]

Originally Posted by BlackBellamy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah you don't know anything about my political beliefs as I have never shared them. To call me names because I posted scientifically accurate information about vaccine risks says more about your politics and frame of mind I think.

Let me pose a hypothetical. Lets suppose a child in your town is dying and the only donor match is you. When asked, you said no I would like to keep all my liver. Does the government have the right to compel you out of inaction and subject you to a medical procedure against your will?

I'm assuming you'll answer yes, for the greater good.

Conservative grievance politics are so boring that we ended up electing Sleepy Joe, please don't keep making the same mistake.

[Penish]

Originally Posted by Horza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Conservative grievance politics are so boring that we ended up electing Sleepy Joe, please don't keep making the same mistake.

poster child for democracy's downfall strikes again with 75iq non relevant post, whats it like to take in information and not be able to process it?

[Shawk]

Originally Posted by Penish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

poster child for democracy's downfall strikes again with 75iq non relevant post, whats it like to take in information and not be able to process it?

The irony is over 9000!

[Whale biologist]

Originally Posted by BlackBellamy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Does the government have the right to compel you out of inaction and subject you to a medical procedure against your will?

Sometimes!