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09-14-2021, 11:51 AM
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If there was no effort for the loot why would anyone play or value it? The value is there because not everyone can get it..
They have tons of pay to win / instanced servers for casual people /nod. I worked hard for stuff I got and I love that and feel I earned it, tracking, leveling bots, etc to get ahead. Just letting everyone have the same thing with no effort seems dumb and devalues it all. Let's give everyone a trophy so then it all means nothing..cause we can't have people who win, it might offend someone! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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09-14-2021, 11:55 AM
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09-14-2021, 12:44 PM
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Did you ever stop to think that for some, the effort is about banding together with your friends, hashing out and executing a strategy, and getting the kill, and not about who clicked on a button a millisecond faster, who has the better raid rules loophole finders, or who recruited the most people with enough free time to muster a raid force at 3am? That is artificial effort created by other players as a barrier to entry, which serves to reduce competition. Not specifically addressing you because I don't know your stance on the matter, but in general I find it ironic that the same players who whine about wanting pixels to require effort hate with a passion that NTOV dragons are rooted so they have to, as a minimum, put in an effort to COTH the entire raid force into position instead of a handful of players pulling the dragon to the zone for the other 60-100 warm bodies to kill and then log out. Should it take effort or not? I'm confused.
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09-14-2021, 01:48 PM
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I will say a ton of people quit once they realized we had to clear ntov. But I enjoy pog and sky raids still so clearing is fun to me, love tanking things /nod.. And you can be casual and join a raid guild if all your wanting to do is kill some dragons and not expecting bis loots...don't have to play often, tbh I hardly play much at all anymore, just log in, tank a dragon or two or 3 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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09-14-2021, 05:15 PM
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09-15-2021, 11:54 AM
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Gotcha ! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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09-15-2021, 03:43 PM
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Don't be purposely obtuse. It's about being able to play the game, which involves raiding content, reaping the rewards, gratzing your friends, and progressing your character. Just like we did on Live. HOWEVER.... ...one important difference preventing that. The thing everyone likes to conveniently forget is that on Live, there were expansions beyond Velious that allowed the hardcore guilds to go fuck off on bleeding edge Luclin/PoP content and beyond, and then the casual guilds got to "move on up". We don't have that here... there is a content ceiling and the hardcore raid guilds are stuck against it with nowhere to fuck off to. So the "wait out the hardcore neckbeards until they've gone off to the juicier pixels" aspect of EQ Live never happens here, and is purely an artificial side effect of P99 being locked to Velious. Opening an optional rotation server next launch would at least let casual players enjoy the game without the artificial ceiling keeping hardcore raid guilds around to monopolize the top content. And the hardcore guilds can go have fun butting their heads against each other on the competitive version of the server. This would help simulate the "top tier guilds moved on to other expansions" impact due to their complete abhorrence to the mere suggestion of players being able to work together and enjoy playing the game. No, playing TAKP or TLPs aren't the answer and you know it, due to boxing on TAKP and Daybreak not being able to recreate classic as well as P99 has.
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09-23-2021, 03:42 PM
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09-23-2021, 04:13 PM
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But I guess you talking about warm bodies who don't actually do anything but show up for dkp...you get what you put in even inside the guild. People who track and fte have triple the dkp of people who just show up../nod
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10-19-2021, 02:48 AM
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What if a group of guildmates and friends who have never done end game classic(ish rofl) velious before in their lives wanted to raid but had wives and jobs and lives… they cant do it on blue or green but if there was a rotated server they could do it and it would also be challenging and rewarding since they have never done it before. And the people who have no real life could play on the competitive server every day. I think its a real good idea whoever came up with this.
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Hey CSR When Will PNP Rule 14 Be Enforced?
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