It's official: Riot is done.

[Nutsax]

Originally Posted by Argh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

win = cheating
lose = proof of cheating

hell yea dude

Assumming Trainquish wins 4 out of 5 races, there is only 1 chance in 100 that Trainquish would win 20 in row.

As soon as Trainquish were made aware of this, Trainquish is seen not trying to win the race, and looses the 21st race.

This is evidence of cheating to any clear thinking individual.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Nutsax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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[Nibblewitz]

Originally Posted by Nutsax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Assumming Trainquish wins 4 out of 5 races, there is only 1 chance in 100 that Trainquish would win 20 in row.

Like a math major, you’re assuming that the races are independent. In reality, Vanquish’s first 10 wins made you all log out in frustration and disgust, and your recent win was due to a massive dkp incentive for racers.

[myrddraal]

Originally Posted by Nibblewitz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Like a math major, you’re assuming that the races are independent. In reality, Vanquish’s first 10 wins made you all log out in frustration and disgust, and your recent win was due to a massive dkp incentive for racers.

hasnt furor taken most of the good vulak and doze items because of the dkp bonuses for racing? Literally the exact thing people accuse arcler of accruing dkp to do when he hasnt bid on a single piece that I can remember?

[Furorr]

Originally Posted by myrddraal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

hasnt furor taken most of the good vulak and doze items because of the dkp bonuses for racing? Literally the exact thing people accuse arcler of accruing dkp to do when he hasnt bid on a single piece that I can remember?

Vanquish doesn't have FTE bonuses. We've been winning races for fun. It may be time to start, though. They've been doing a fantastic job. Is Arcler still rocking that 90% RA? I need to up my game. A casual like myself is just sitting down here at 66%. Who does all the DKP submissions in Riot?

To date, it is my 3rd year on P99. I have never been consistently bested in coth, foot, or click races by anyone on the server, so I do not believe any player has been cheating on them. I would haven taken notice if someone started blowing through my benchmarks. Tofat, Tuddy, Iris, Papazol, Zarza on coths, Venice at RW, Mjrn, Stunningly, Papazol, Laughingor, Soju, Lennard, Capi, Detoxx, Kingmob, Luddo, Screapy on races... these guys are all killers I've spent a lot of time competing with. I see Slaggs (Gnomatron), Hogur, Mazeril, Chexi, Twist, Ironn, Trakkini, and Meathanger coming up on races too! ...I hope Griffith isn't getting paid for his Kael runs lol sorry Myrddraal.

In regards to Riot dying, it is sad to see. I had a lot of fun in that guild! Just wish it was managed better at the time. It is probably overdue now for a restructure or a merge to change the direction it has been going.

Raid success does not detract from friendships, questing, or anything else a guild has to offer. If success on raids did have any negative impact on guilds, what does the impact of failing on raids have on a guild? If you're going to be spending time raiding anyway, win. If your leadership tries to rationalize defeat, run. The competition is going to be hard enough on you without trying to carry your leaders as well.

[Twochain]

Originally Posted by Furorr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Vanquish doesn't have FTE bonuses. We've been winning races for fun. It may be time to start, though. They've been doing a fantastic job. Is Arcler still rocking that 90% RA? I need to up my game. A casual like myself is just sitting down here at 66%. Who does all the DKP submissions in Riot?

To date, it is my 3rd year on P99. I have never been consistently bested in coth, foot, or click races by anyone on the server, so I do not believe any player has been cheating on them. I would haven taken notice if someone started blowing through my benchmarks. Tofat, Tuddy, Iris, Papazol, Zarza on coths, Venice at RW, Mjrn, Stunningly, Papazol, Laughingor, Soju, Lennard, Capi, Detoxx, Kingmob, Luddo, Screapy on races... these guys are all killers I've spent a lot of time competing with. I see Slaggs (Gnomatron), Hogur, Mazeril, Chexi, Twist, Ironn, Trakkini, and Meathanger coming up on races too! ...I hope Griffith isn't getting paid for his Kael runs lol sorry Myrddraal.

In regards to Riot dying, it is sad to see. I had a lot of fun in that guild! Just wish it was managed better at the time. It is probably overdue now for a restructure or a merge to change the direction it has been going.

Raid success does not detract from friendships, questing, or anything else a guild has to offer. If success on raids did have any negative impact on guilds, what does the impact of failing on raids have on a guild? If you're going to be spending time raiding anyway, win. If your leadership tries to rationalize defeat, run. The competition is going to be hard enough on you without trying to carry your leaders as well.

That's cute, did you use python to script this forum post too kid? Get legit

[Aadill]

Originally Posted by Twochain [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's cute, did you use python to script this forum post too kid? Get legit

I haven't laughed that hard since five minutes ago.

[myrddraal]

Originally Posted by Furorr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Vanquish doesn't have FTE bonuses. We've been winning races for fun. It may be time to start, though. They've been doing a fantastic job. Is Arcler still rocking that 90% RA? I need to up my game. A casual like myself is just sitting down here at 66%. Who does all the DKP submissions in Riot?

To date, it is my 3rd year on P99. I have never been consistently bested in coth, foot, or click races by anyone on the server, so I do not believe any player has been cheating on them. I would haven taken notice if someone started blowing through my benchmarks. Tofat, Tuddy, Iris, Papazol, Zarza on coths, Venice at RW, Mjrn, Stunningly, Papazol, Laughingor, Soju, Lennard, Capi, Detoxx, Kingmob, Luddo, Screapy on races... these guys are all killers I've spent a lot of time competing with. I see Slaggs (Gnomatron), Hogur, Mazeril, Chexi, Twist, Ironn, Trakkini, and Meathanger coming up on races too! ...I hope Griffith isn't getting paid for his Kael runs lol sorry Myrddraal.

In regards to Riot dying, it is sad to see. I had a lot of fun in that guild! Just wish it was managed better at the time. It is probably overdue now for a restructure or a merge to change the direction it has been going.

Raid success does not detract from friendships, questing, or anything else a guild has to offer. If success on raids did have any negative impact on guilds, what does the impact of failing on raids have on a guild? If you're going to be spending time raiding anyway, win. If your leadership tries to rationalize defeat, run. The competition is going to be hard enough on you without trying to carry your leaders as well.

Pretty sure Tonik does most of our dkp input, and arclers RA and dkp is irrelevant if he never bids on anything lol. Not really anything they need anyway if it does even drop.
I also wouldnt call 66% ra casual, especially with these currently insane windows spread out over like 4 days. Im at a comfortable 30% myself.

Speaking of. working out the kinks in my racing \_o_/ test server times are good, up there with inbetween when i was on there last and they just won our statue. Not sure why Im having the issues I am on blue over TS, but i'll get it figured out. Throwing in the towel on racing isnt an option unless theres a rule change they make but with coths out of the picture there isnt a lot of other options. The worst part about the racing is sitting on the line for hours rather than losing but thats why I've said several times in blue general we should do away with natural variance spawns and just quake randomly once a week. Less time wasted, more time actually playing. Especially when there are mobs that require a lot of moving parts to sock like doze what with getting fte, not dropping, maintining train outs and faction, I much prefer the coth engage meta because it needed less infrastructure personally.

[jbel123]

Originally Posted by Furorr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Vanquish doesn't have FTE bonuses. We've been winning races for fun. It may be time to start, though. They've been doing a fantastic job. Is Arcler still rocking that 90% RA? I need to up my game. A casual like myself is just sitting down here at 66%. Who does all the DKP submissions in Riot?

To date, it is my 3rd year on P99. I have never been consistently bested in coth, foot, or click races by anyone on the server, so I do not believe any player has been cheating on them. I would haven taken notice if someone started blowing through my benchmarks. Tofat, Tuddy, Iris, Papazol, Zarza on coths, Venice at RW, Mjrn, Stunningly, Papazol, Laughingor, Soju, Lennard, Capi, Detoxx, Kingmob, Luddo, Screapy on races... these guys are all killers I've spent a lot of time competing with. I see Slaggs (Gnomatron), Hogur, Mazeril, Chexi, Twist, Ironn, Trakkini, and Meathanger coming up on races too! ...I hope Griffith isn't getting paid for his Kael runs lol sorry Myrddraal.

In regards to Riot dying, it is sad to see. I had a lot of fun in that guild! Just wish it was managed better at the time. It is probably overdue now for a restructure or a merge to change the direction it has been going.

Raid success does not detract from friendships, questing, or anything else a guild has to offer. If success on raids did have any negative impact on guilds, what does the impact of failing on raids have on a guild? If you're going to be spending time raiding anyway, win. If your leadership tries to rationalize defeat, run. The competition is going to be hard enough on you without trying to carry your leaders as well.

what's RA like these days? crowns probably doing ok, though

[Nutsax]

Originally Posted by Nibblewitz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Like a math major, you’re assuming that the races are independent. In reality, Vanquish’s first 10 wins made you all log out in frustration and disgust, and your recent win was due to a massive dkp incentive for racers.

The races are independent events. Look up the definition.

When Trainquish cheats and are not punished people get disgusted. This is why allowing cheating is harmful, it reduces competition.

Explain to me how Riot increasing dkp for fte decreases the skill of Trainquish players.

People observed Trainquish not trying to win race 21.