It's official: Riot is done.

[Ennewi]

Originally Posted by Solist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

More toxic cretins in kittens than both riot and vanq rank and file combined.

Name a member who has threatened physical harm on someone. Name one who trained another guild using their own account and then lied about doing so. Hard to top those without making it up as you go.

[Horza]

Originally Posted by Ennewi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Name a member who has threatened physical harm on someone. Name one who trained another guild using their own account and then lied about doing so. Hard to top those without making it up as you go.

Okay, but it's a tough time of year.

[apathe]

Originally Posted by Ennewi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Name a member who has threatened physical harm on someone. Name one who trained another guild using their own account and then lied about doing so. Hard to top those without making it up as you go.

Jutebox is the answer to each one.

[Nutsax]

Originally Posted by apathe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Jutebox is the answer to each one.

Nope, stop gaslighting.

[MaCtastic]

Originally Posted by apathe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Jutebox is the answer to each one.

I am Jutebox.

[Ennewi]

[Wokka]

There's toxic people in all guilds, you're all just obsessed with pushing the narrative that only one guild has them. Watching you all bicker and whine with each other in RnF just proves that point.

Let's be honest, without bag limits Riot would be getting very few mobs. In a competitive scenario they get beaten 9 times out of every 10. Without Kittens next to them every ToV cycle they would struggle for the numbers for some mobs, they aren't the massive zerg they once were. Bag limits came in at just the right time to "save" them, so to speak.

Members of nearly all the guilds have been caught doing shady shit, from dispelling slowed raid mobs, training, lull pulling, casting fake buffs, opening trade windows, the list goes on. But that doesn't fit the narrative of "it's all Vanquish!, those cunts!". The hypocrisy is real.

[supercalif]

Originally Posted by Wokka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's toxic people in all guilds, you're all just obsessed with pushing the narrative that only one guild has them. Watching you all bicker and whine with each other in RnF just proves that point.

Let's be honest, without bag limits Riot would be getting very few mobs. In a competitive scenario they get beaten 9 times out of every 10. Without Kittens next to them every ToV cycle they would struggle for the numbers for some mobs, they aren't the massive zerg they once were. Bag limits came in at just the right time to "save" them, so to speak.

Members of nearly all the guilds have been caught doing shady shit, from dispelling slowed raid mobs, training, lull pulling, casting fake buffs, opening trade windows, the list goes on. But that doesn't fit the narrative of "it's all Vanquish!, those cunts!". The hypocrisy is real.

Well said

[Ennewi]

Originally Posted by Wokka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's toxic people in all guilds, you're all just obsessed with pushing the narrative that only one guild has them. Watching you all bicker and whine with each other in RnF just proves that point.

While the first point is true to an extent, you aren't accounting for the behavior that is extreme. Whether condoned or encouraged, there are differences in offenses between all guilds, from the top down. It isn't perfectly even. It isn't 50/50 with the good and bad there to cancel each other put on both sides.

Similarly, not everyone is bickering and whining in these threads, or even creating these threads to begin with. It's easy to see who are the instigators. That's the point of RNF though. If you think a guild is supposed to abstain from RNF to prove they aren't part of the problem, you may as well expect them to avoid raid zones or leave the server too.

[ArbiterBlixen]

Originally Posted by Ennewi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

While the first point is true to an extent, you aren't accounting for the behavior that is extreme. Whether condoned or encouraged, there are differences in offenses between all guilds, from the top down. It isn't perfectly even. It isn't 50/50 with the good and bad there to cancel each other put on both sides.

Similarly, not everyone is bickering and whining in these threads, or even creating these threads to begin with. It's easy to see who are the instigators. That's the point of RNF though. If you think a guild is supposed to abstain from RNF to prove they aren't part of the problem, you may as well expect them to avoid raid zones or leave the server too.

/agree, you're so much better when you don't respond in the form of a youtube link