Should they remove the estate tax or the death tax?

[Pulgasari]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He's not banned, he's just messing with you.

BALER IS A RASCAL [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Botten]

In many cases this is the only time the rich who are avoiding paying their taxes can be caught. The final resulting redistribution of the wealth is probably better for the nation where the social gap is getting larger and larger. Not a solution but the right solutions won't be passed in congress when dark money runs the show.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by Botten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The final resulting redistribution of the wealth is probably better for the nation where the social gap is getting larger and larger.

This is exactly my point about messaging, the idea behind the tax is that we're fixing the gap between the rich and the poor. But what we're really doing is setting banks up to eat homes for pennies on the dollar. (Increasing the gap between the wealthy and the poor)

In reality higher taxes dont make people better people, if they did we'd all be living under a king right now.

[Pulgasari]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is exactly my point about messaging, the idea behind the tax is that we're fixing the gap between the rich and the poor. But what we're really doing is setting banks up to eat homes for pennies on the dollar. (Increasing the gap between the wealthy and the poor)

In reality higher taxes dont make people better people, if they did we'd all be living under a king right now.

OK but how do you square that yammering with the facts?

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Poor people don't get the inheritance tax. It kicks in at like 1.5 million or something.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by Pulgasari [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OK but how do you square that yammering with the facts?

just did, thats the messaging, not the facts [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Byue]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is exactly my point about messaging, the idea behind the tax is that we're fixing the gap between the rich and the poor. But what we're really doing is setting banks up to eat homes for pennies on the dollar. (Increasing the gap between the wealthy and the poor)

In reality higher taxes dont make people better people, if they did we'd all be living under a king right now.

Well, the solution to your financial problem is not to have more money, it's to make better decision in your past. (both true and very stupid)

A hundred years ago, they laughed at Karl Marx because he thought that given enough time, wealth would concentrate within the hands of a very few powerful elite.

Now, even a staunch republicans try to grapple with his nascent fascist tendencies and right leaning ideologies and try to reconcile this with this knowledge that the world is not very fair.

I'm sorry you don't understand basic economics.


You are right though.
Let's cut all taxes since it taxes the poor more.
Cut that shit off. End it.

Will be so much better off after that, right?

Like it's weird because you're too retarded to know that your stupid fucking ideas have been tried before.

This is why I say get an education.


Or whatever.
Maybe we could try not having countries and just giving the super rich complete power.

[starkind]

Just soft cap total personal wealth at 1,000,000 fun points. And get rid of insurance and other scams and usury.

[Byue]

Originally Posted by starkind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just soft cap total personal wealth at 1,000,000 fun points. And get rid of insurance and other scams and usury.

Usury was illegal for most of humanity history because our elder understood the basic principle that if I lend you a gold piece, and you need to give me two back, you will necessarily have to take it from someone else, just to give back and thus, there was incentive to prevent you from repaying.

They also implemented a vey heavy tax on what you currently owned but the trick was to share a lot of your wealth to not be taxed.
So poor and rich could mingle without much animosity.

Because as Plato wisely observed, if you protect private property, you protect those who have against those who don't. Thus the best defense against envy, is to share the wealth.

But these dudes were dumb.
And so am I.

[Gwaihir]

Originally Posted by Byue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Usury was illegal for most of humanity history because our elder understood the basic principle that if I lend you a gold piece, and you need to give me two back, you will necessarily have to take it from someone else, just to give back and thus, there was incentive to prevent you from repaying.

They also implemented a vey heavy tax on what you currently owned but the trick was to share a lot of your wealth to not be taxed.
So poor and rich could mingle without much animosity.

Because as Plato wisely observed, if you protect private property, you protect those who have against those who don't. Thus the best defense against envy, is to share the wealth.

But these dudes were dumb.
And so am I.

When a Jew isn't allowed to charge interest in a usurious manner, they consider that slavery. It's literally another shoah.

Plato was a Eugenecist, by the way.
“Weak parents should not procreate. Because their children would inherit their inferior qualities, they would have no strength to lead a meaningful life, or in any way contribute to the state.”

Not exactly a paragon of virtue, nor enlightened

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by starkind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just soft cap total personal wealth at 1,000,000 fun points. And get rid of insurance and other scams and usury.

Each inheritor can get 1 mil untaxed. Everything left over after that goes to creditors (debts otherwise not inherited). 100% of the worth after the millions are inherited and debts paid off, gets taxed 100%.

This is my really badly thought out system I just came up with now.