Salvia is a helluva drug

[purist]

Originally Posted by BelenosThePagan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Salvia is for high school kids who can't find real hallucinogens.

The fuck? Salvia is an incredibly powerful hallucinogen, genius burger.

[BelenosThePagan]

Originally Posted by purist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The fuck? Salvia is an incredibly powerful hallucinogen, genius burger.

was referring more to the nature of the substance as apposed to the much more
desirable effects of LSD, or if you like short and sweet go for DMT. I'm not saying (and never said) salvia was weak, I just said it sucks.

Also, trying to insult someone's intellect using a phrase like "genius burger" brings your own into question

[quido]

Salvia is a different ballgame. Salvia doesn't get much street credit because it is still sort of legal, but it is a powerful disassociative along the lines of Ketamine and PCP. You can't get fucked up on acid or mushrooms in the way that you can on a disassociative. Take it from a tried and true psychonaut.

[BelenosThePagan]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can't get fucked up on acid or mushrooms in the way that you can on a disassociative.

Exactly. A pure liquid trip that is uplifting, introspective and meaningful is (imo) better than being "fucked up"

[Arclyte]

And what exactly have you gleaned from these supposed "uplifting, introspective and meaningful" dope binges?

[Rainflush]

Drug experiences can be quite profound, I have however found Salvia to be rather jarring and unpleasant, though I was sleep deprived each time I've used it so I can't really attest to a distinctive effect from the drug.

[Dravingar]

Originally Posted by Arclyte [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And what exactly have you gleaned from these supposed "uplifting, introspective and meaningful" dope binges?

Bill hicks said it best

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J10w3...eature=related

Edit : Forgot to add, salvia is pretty awful. Way too much money for a very meh time.

[BelenosThePagan]

Originally Posted by Arclyte [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And what exactly have you gleaned from these supposed "uplifting, introspective and meaningful" dope binges?

Mostly inspiration in my composition and lyrics, as well as a greater understanding of my own
Psyche and the ways I stand to improve. Nothing I have to defend to anonymous internet peeps who know nothing of the substance though.

Also, Dope = Heroin. Very different from lysergic acid diethylamide, google it and inform yourself.

[Arclyte]

Originally Posted by BelenosThePagan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mostly inspiration in my composition and lyrics, as well as a greater understanding of my own
Psyche and the ways I stand to improve. Nothing I have to defend to anonymous internet peeps who know nothing of the substance though.

Also, Dope = Heroin. Very different from lysergic acid diethylamide, google it and inform yourself.

Care to share some of these lyrics and/or greater understanding of yourself? Or is that what you use to justify it? I wonder, are you honest enough to admit (if not here, at least to yourself) the downsides to this shit?

As for me, I suppose you could say I'm biased, and against the idea of self-medication in general. The objects used to fulfill that end vary widely, some legal and some not. The "war on drugs" is futile, and a waste of time until good men and women decide to craft a more decent and respectable world for themselves.

Easier said than done. For some (read: most) people, it is in their nature to avoid conflict and decision. To forgo their beliefs and their pride in lieu of "peace" and apathy. The marks of a great person, to me, are; conviction, honor, dependability and the burden of responsibility.

I have never met a drunk/stoner to exemplify these traits, and let me tell you, I never will. People use even the mildest vices as an excuse to avoid and escape what has seemingly become the crushing burden of decency. It is pathetic. We are better than this.

I don't know you, and in a way this post isn't directed at you. Maybe you're one of those mythical "functioning users" who can be a part of society and manage to not be a walking pile of shit. Maybe you don't treat women like garbage. Maybe you speak proper English. Maybe you actually give a fuck about the people and world around you. From my experiences, though, you would be the first.

[deakolt]

Originally Posted by BelenosThePagan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Exactly. A pure liquid trip that is uplifting, introspective and meaningful is (imo) better than being "fucked up"

agree with this, salvia blows acid rules