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Old 04-17-2021, 10:32 PM
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They don't do anything
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Old 04-17-2021, 10:40 PM
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They literally don't do anything for Covid

It's called Science
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Old 04-17-2021, 11:04 PM
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The scientific community would not consider one study to be definitive; no matter how thorough or conclusive that study is, more is the standard.

But just for argument's sake, even if masks only provide a false sense of security, consider the general public's track record with most any uncertainty faced just within the past two decades and then take into account the other news stories...

https://abc7chicago.com/easter-egg-h...ticut/1265195/

https://www.cbc.ca/archives/when-the...ling-1.4921367

Cut to 2020's hand sanitizer and toilet paper shortages.

An adult pacifier that encourages people to talk less and avoid interacting with each other isn't exactly a bad thing. And, to my knowledge, the only harm has been from littering.
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Old 04-17-2021, 11:16 PM
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The scientific community would not consider one study to be definitive; no matter how thorough or conclusive that study is, more is the standard.

But just for argument's sake, even if masks only provide a false sense of security, consider the general public's track record with most any uncertainty faced just within the past two decades and then take into account the other news stories...

https://abc7chicago.com/easter-egg-h...ticut/1265195/

https://www.cbc.ca/archives/when-the...ling-1.4921367

Cut to 2020's hand sanitizer and toilet paper shortages.

An adult pacifier that encourages people to talk less and avoid interacting with each other isn't exactly a bad thing. And, to my knowledge, the only harm has been from littering.
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According to the current knowledge, the virus SARS-CoV-2 has a diameter of 60 nm to 140 nm [nanometers (billionth of a meter), while medical and non-medical facemasks’ thread diameter ranges from 55 µm to 440 µm [micrometers (one millionth of a meter), which is more than 1000 times larger. Due to the difference in sizes between SARS-CoV-2 diameter and facemasks thread diameter (the virus is 1000 times smaller), SARS-CoV-2 can easily pass through any facemask.
If you can find a study that shows the Covid virus is 1000 times larger than what is currently known, please provide it

Otherwise, the rest of your post is an admission that masks don't do anything, but people need to be controlled because they want to buy an Elmo doll
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Old 04-17-2021, 11:52 PM
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If you can find a study that shows the Covid virus is 1000 times larger than what is currently known, please provide it

Otherwise, the rest of your post is an admission that masks don't do anything, but people need to be controlled because they want to buy an Elmo doll
https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...cks-evidence-/

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In November, it published the article cited in the Facebook post, which was authored by Baruch Vainshelboim. The article says Vainshelboim works in a cardiology division of the U.S. Veterans Affairs Palo Alto Health Care System in California. He identifies himself in his LinkedIn profile as a clinical exercise physiologist, with a doctorate from University of Porto in Portugal.

The part of the article copied in the Facebook post lists 12 physiological effects as being caused by wearing a face mask. They include conditions such as hypoxemia and hypercapnia, as well as more general effects such as shortness of breath, "toxicity" and "increased muscle tension."

"This is a list of generally discredited hypotheses that have been tested and disproved," said Benjamin Neuman, biology professor at Texas A&M University and chief viologist of the university’s Global Health Research Complex.

"This seems to be a piece of deceptive writing from what appears to be a non-expert. It isn't science."

We tried to reach Vainshelboim by phone and email and did not receive a reply.

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A widely shared Facebook post that links to a medical journal article says to "follow the science" of a list of physiological effects said to be caused by wearing masks.

The article was written by an exercise physiologist and was published by Medical Hypotheses, a journal that says its purpose is to publish "interesting theoretical papers."

There is not evidence to back the article’s list of claimed effects from mask wearing.

We rate the post False.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PolitiFact

When time permits, I will try to find better sources.

But still, even if masks are ineffective against covid, they still protect against the spread of other viruses which cause people to believe they have covid symptoms. The positive result would then be fewer patients needlessly in hospital, thereby reducing the strain on medical professionals, which goes back to the point made about consumer behavior trends.
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Old 04-18-2021, 02:34 AM
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https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...cks-evidence-/



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PolitiFact

When time permits, I will try to find better sources.

But still, even if masks are ineffective against covid, they still protect against the spread of other viruses which cause people to believe they have covid symptoms. The positive result would then be fewer patients needlessly in hospital, thereby reducing the strain on medical professionals, which goes back to the point made about consumer behavior trends.
Politifact? GTFO

Your sources are all shit

The masks don't do anything. Find me a source that makes the virus 1000 times larger than what it currently is. You're bringing up Koch Brothers and all kinds of stupid shit like that matters when it doesn't

If you can prove the virus is 1000 times larger than what is accepted SCIENCE than by all means, provide the evidence. Otherwise, stop wasting my time

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(Here is a hint look for scientific consensus not one offs)
Find the scientific proof that the virus is 1000 times larger than what the scientific consensus currently is

Good Luck
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Old 04-18-2021, 02:47 AM
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Politifact? GTFO

Your sources are all shit
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You're bringing up Koch Brothers and all kinds of stupid shit like that matters when it doesn't
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Old 04-17-2021, 11:25 PM
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An adult pacifier that encourages people to talk less and avoid interacting with each other isn't exactly a bad thing. And, to my knowledge, the only harm has been from littering.
Sounds like a bad thing to me...
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Old 04-17-2021, 11:56 PM
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Sounds like a bad thing to me...
Try red.
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Old 04-18-2021, 12:05 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Sweet_(writer)
https://mobile.twitter.com/DrMatthew...09595264036868

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It’s by someone called Baruch Vainshelboim. He seems to be a sports physiologist with some link to Stanford. But the publication in which his work appears is not peer-reviewed, and it has weird spelling mistakes and footnotes with no page refs.
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And here it is, cited in a classroom example of how to teach people to spot dubious scientific research on the internet. https://t.co/omrfDs7sKT?amp=1
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So I think this why you were given a short ban. You misrepresented some random article on the internet as a Stanford peer-reviewed study, which Twitter probably counts as medical misinformation. Now you know this you can issue a correction to your 125k followers
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