Semi-Classic

[Jete]

And the instrument modifiers don't work on those songs-

You have a bucket for sale by chance?

[Loke]

Jete, bards aren't the only ones. Correct me if I'm wrong, but currently monks in P99 are subject to the Luclin era mitigation and avoidance nerfs. Everyone knows that monks have a weight limit that we must maintain to avoid suffering an AC penalty. What most people don't know is the reasoning behind that weight limit was because monks were given a higher avoidance and mitigation that was on par with chain or plate (I can't remember) classes. In Luclin, a number of notable players started to complain about monks being over-powered (In all honesty, we were), a thus our mitigation was nerfed (yet our weight restrictions remained /boggle).

Personally, I don't think monks are all that bad on this server, and I feel I compliment any group I join fairly well. I'm not complaining. I'm just providing an example of how bards are not the only class that is weaker or more restricted than it was in classic.

Honestly, I'd take the way aggro works on this server over increased avoidance / mitigation any day. It's definitely not classic, but you won't hear any complaints out of me. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Edit : Also, Snifs post was the best post in this thread.

[Aeolwind]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Jete, bards aren't the only ones. Correct me if I'm wrong, but currently monks in P99 are subject to the Luclin era mitigation and avoidance nerfs. Everyone knows that monks have a weight limit that we must maintain to avoid suffering an AC penalty. What most people don't know is the reasoning behind that weight limit was because monks were given a higher avoidance and mitigation that was on par with chain or plate (I can't remember) classes. In Luclin, a number of notable players started to complain about monks being over-powered (In all honesty, we were), a thus our mitigation was nerfed (yet our weight restrictions remained /boggle).

I seem to remember this in the patch notes about being fixed.

[MutualofOmaha]

First, I would like to thank the community for its responses to this thread, at least those in the community who care to provide meaningful responses and commentary.

Second, thank you to Aeolwind for responding with at least some effort and meaningful, item-by-item consideration. I would add, also, that I did not intend any kind of double-talk at the end of my post, although it obviously came across that way to some. I am sincerely thankful for the server we have that is at least fun to play on.

But I would ask Aeolwind, or other developers actually doing things to move the server forward: can you answer my question? Once the myriad bugs and non-classic elements are eventually removed/mitigated/worked around/whatever, is there the possibility of some kind of relaunch for those of us interested in a functionally more classic server, or more preferably the possibility of a second server? If this is to be an eventuality, I would be willing to devote effort and time to run down each and every bug or inconsistency and report them individually on the bugs forum. I don't generally waste my time on forums as I generally see them as worthless trolling logs, but if hard work and reporting really will lead to the creation of a classic server by the developers, that would alter things.

Again, I do enjoy playing on the server, that's why I am here. I can enjoy the current Semi-Classic server, but I would love a Classic server more.

[PearlJammzz]

Originally Posted by MutualofOmaha [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

First, I would like to thank the community for its responses to this thread, at least those in the community who care to provide meaningful responses and commentary.

Second, thank you to Aeolwind for responding with at least some effort and meaningful, item-by-item consideration. I would add, also, that I did not intend any kind of double-talk at the end of my post, although it obviously came across that way to some. I am sincerely thankful for the server we have that is at least fun to play on.

But I would ask Aeolwind, or other developers actually doing things to move the server forward: can you answer my question? Once the myriad bugs and non-classic elements are eventually removed/mitigated/worked around/whatever, is there the possibility of some kind of relaunch for those of us interested in a functionally more classic server, or more preferably the possibility of a second server? If this is to be an eventuality, I would be willing to devote effort and time to run down each and every bug or inconsistency and report them individually on the bugs forum. I don't generally waste my time on forums as I generally see them as worthless trolling logs, but if hard work and reporting really will lead to the creation of a classic server by the developers, that would alter things.

Again, I do enjoy playing on the server, that's why I am here. I can enjoy the current Semi-Classic server, but I would love a Classic server more.

I believe they are doing everything in their power to get it as close as possible to live as they can. There is talks of starting a new server once they release Kunark, and then Velious, but no one really knows.

If you can prove tons of bug information it would be MUCH loved. We will never be 100% classic. We just won't, but we can get it 90% of the way there if everyone chips in. I was young when I played EQ, but there are a few things I do remember (such as the faction hit on a quest I put in the bug forum), and comment on when I see it's wrong.

Complaining gets us no where. If you really want this to be a classic server then do your part by reporting what is wrong. Without reporting what is wrong there is no way we can count on the small number of people working on this (on their spare time mind you) to be able to get everything.

[SwordNboard]

Originally Posted by MutualofOmaha [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But I would ask Aeolwind, or other developers actually doing things to move the server forward..

Okay, stop. They are probably working on it RIGHT now if they aren't at their real job. Imagine taking an EQ database from a future era and going through line by line, by hand, to revert everything you possibly can. Each mob, quest, item, vendor, tradeskill.. with a handful of devs compared to Verant in the past.. being worked on takes time. If they were to delay it until the DB was "perfect" we wouldn't be playing now. I am confident that fixes are always being made and people like you will always complain with your instant gratification states of mind.

Sorry to flame you a bit, but think broader. Oh, and I hope to see you in-game! Thanks for playing here!

[Loke]

Originally Posted by Aeolwind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I seem to remember this in the patch notes about being fixed.

That is a real possibility. I don't scour the patch notes very closely. If I was wrong and the Luclin mitigation / avoidance nerf is not live, then I apologize and just ignore my post completely.

As I'm rather new to the community, it is difficult to compare the current mitigation system to a past one. So yea, if monks are indeed classic in regards to mitigation and avoidance, my post should just be ignored. Also, my OP was in no way complaining... I personally feel P99 should be viewed as an autonomous game. It's not EverQuest. Thus, any differences that the devs / community feel should be in place are just fine by me.