Seal Team removes ourselves from all player agreements

[Twochain]

Originally Posted by Bach [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Noble is taboo because of prove ST is no better than anyone if things are fair ( if anything they have shown to be worse).

So then push for a footrace for Trak. Coth races suck anyway.

It blows my mind people complain about racing. You still have to go kill the mob the same way. Everything after the race operates completely like a classic EQ raid.

[Sabin76]

Originally Posted by Twochain [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So then push for a footrace for Trak.

This is not the problem with Trak. Let me put it this way... the longer the window had been open without a pop, the more likely it was that ST had competition for the mob. The one time I was there to contest Trak it was something ridiculous like only 1 hour left in window. Same with the couple VS races I've been to.

[Twochain]

Originally Posted by Sabin76 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is not the problem with Trak. Let me put it this way... the longer the window had been open without a pop, the more likely it was that ST had competition for the mob. The one time I was there to contest Trak it was something ridiculous like only 1 hour left in window. Same with the couple VS races I've been to.

Craziness. Sounds like there was more competition for Trak in kunark era of Blue.

Ya'll don't have two monitors so that you can watch netflix and see trak pop in your peripheral vision??

I'm kind of with you though. The only times i've showed up to races with the intention to see it through to the end are usually on shorter windows.

But it doesn't make much sense to me that Blue has 2 guilds with mages on poop mountain for 16 hours, but green doesn't.

[Bach]

Originally Posted by Twochain [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Craziness. Sounds like there was more competition for Trak in kunark era of Blue.

Ya'll don't have two monitors so that you can watch netflix and see trak pop in your peripheral vision??

I'm kind of with you though. The only times i've showed up to races with the intention to see it through to the end are usually on shorter windows.

But it doesn't make much sense to me that Blue has 2 guilds with mages on poop mountain for 16 hours, but green doesn't.

Beyond the point.

Waiting staring at a screen for 16 hours isn't the opposite of fun, the opposite of bein competitive, it requieres no skill, a monkey could do it.

We can just save everyone the bloody headache by finding creative solution, like waiting 20mn to engage + roll to emulate randomness, along with snake type rotated content like on blue, not everything has to be competition, rotation ARE classic, they happened on live too, people weren't as greedy.

[Twochain]

Originally Posted by Bach [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Beyond the point.

Waiting staring at a screen for 16 hours isn't the opposite of fun, the opposite of bein competitive, it requieres no skill, a monkey could do it.

We can just save everyone the bloody headache by finding creative solution, like waiting 20mn to engage + roll to emulate randomness, along with snake type rotated content like on blue, not everything has to be competition, rotation ARE classic, they happened on live too, people weren't as greedy.

I'd 100% counterargue that players on live were infinitely more greedy than on p99. I mean, when was the last time you saw a scammer in EC? Meanwhile on p99, i'd trust just about anyone with a recognizable guild tag to xfer items for me.


If you're so worried about the exp group at Myconid_spore_king (Because unless i'm grossly underestimating the amount of players camping seb, King should be the only group exposed to a train starting from the zoneline) Like I said, you can easily require the guilds competing to kill the 17 frogs that are in between the zoneline, and the mushrooms. It would take two raid guilds all of 5 minutes to kill these mobs. Leaving PLENTY of time to zone out and back in again and start the race before repops.

[Twochain]

Originally Posted by Twochain [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd 100% counterargue that players on live were infinitely more greedy than on p99. I mean, when was the last time you saw a scammer in EC? Meanwhile on p99, i'd trust just about anyone with a recognizable guild tag to xfer items for me.


If you're so worried about the exp group at Myconid_spore_king (Because unless i'm grossly underestimating the amount of players camping seb, King should be the only group exposed to a train starting from the zoneline) Like I said, you can easily require the guilds competing to kill the 17 frogs that are in between the zoneline, and the mushrooms. It would take two raid guilds all of 5 minutes to kill these mobs. Leaving PLENTY of time to zone out and back in again and start the race before repops.

Or ya'll can keep losing 16 hour coth races to Seal Team. IDC, I don't play on Green. Rogean has shot down rotations multiple times. Raiding EverQuest without the possibility that someone might take your mob makes the content stale. Playing in AM when AW was suspended for months on end was some of the most boring raids i've been a part of. In fact, i'd go as far as to say if Rotations were enforced since the beginning, this server would probably have half as many players. People have been raiding for over a decade for a reason. They have fun. The content itself is trivial.

[Twochain]

Originally Posted by Bach [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Beyond the point.

Waiting staring at a screen for 16 hours isn't the opposite of fun, the opposite of bein competitive, it requieres no skill, a monkey could do it.

We can just save everyone the bloody headache by finding creative solution, like waiting 20mn to engage + roll to emulate randomness, along with snake type rotated content like on blue, not everything has to be competition, rotation ARE classic, they happened on live too, people weren't as greedy.

The snake draft is quarterly. (I like it for what it's worth) Meanwhile, (again feel free to correct me if i'm wrong) There was open raids once a month, or 3x as much on Green before everyone picked up their pitchforks and tried to bully the GM's into a decision they have been routinely against since the projects inception.

Also, again, Rotating end game dragons was not classic. VP wasn't cleared on live until JUST before velious released, as pointed out by another member a few pages back.

Also there is like 6 items from VP that don't become obsolete in 5 months with the release of Velious. Ya'll aren't getting the big picture here. How are you going to keep Seal Team out of Sleeper's Tomb, where the REAL big boy legacy items are, before they wake the sleeper? If stomp your feet and cry because you can't win a dragon with 25 hp?

[Bach]

Originally Posted by Twochain [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The snake draft is quarterly. (I like it for what it's worth) Meanwhile, (again feel free to correct me if i'm wrong) There was open raids once a month, or 3x as much on Green before everyone picked up their pitchforks and tried to bully the GM's into a decision they have been routinely against since the projects inception.

Also, again, Rotating end game dragons was not classic. VP wasn't cleared on live until JUST before velious released, as pointed out by another member a few pages back.

Also there is like 6 items from VP that don't become obsolete in 5 months with the release of Velious. Ya'll aren't getting the big picture here. How are you going to keep Seal Team out of Sleeper's Tomb, where the REAL big boy legacy items are, before they wake the sleeper? If stomp your feet and cry because you can't win a dragon with 25 hp?

You sure do know a lot about green server for someone that doesn't play on green.

You re obviously in ST like most aftermath, you're not even subtle.

No one bullied any GM.

Point is people are here to have fun, this is not fun and ST is toxic AF hence why they ve got banned from raid and their pet guild disbanded.

And yes some partial rotation is in the pipes (it was already in préparation before kunark), as well as bag limit.

There will be competitiveness ( if you can call it that) AND more relaxing content via rotated content.

Don't like it? Tough! Gonna have to deal with it or suffer more raid ban.

[Twochain]

Originally Posted by Bach [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You sure do know a lot about green server for someone that doesn't play on green.

You re obviously in ST like most aftermath, you're not even subtle.

No one bullied any GM.

Point is people are here to have fun, this is not fun and ST is toxic AF hence why they ve got banned from raid and their pet guild disbanded.

And yes some partial rotation is in the pipes (it was already in préparation before kunark), as well as bag limit.

There will be competitiveness ( if you can call it that) AND more relaxing content via rotated content.

Don't like it? Tough! Gonna have to deal with it or suffer more raid ban.

I was probably one of the first 10 people guild tagged <Seal Team>. Throughout the first 24 hours on green I was probably within 10-30% exp of a level away from the highest monk. Logged in the next day to kills dervs, realized that i gained like a yellow in two hours at level 6, and never logged in again. (For the most part, I don't think I ever got to level 10) In fact that character is deleted and is now a level 1 iksar monk. That makes my highest level toon on the server a level 6 enchanter.

I have no skin in this game. If I were to join the raid scene on green today, it would be to join whoever is on the other side of ST. A lot of people in the guild are my friends, which is an even bigger reason to beat them. I'd rather lose a game of 1 on 1 to a random than one of my boys. Also, you can check my history of preaching about the raid scene on this server over the last several years and find that my position is largely unchanged.

Also I don't know if you've noticed but i've been arguing for like two days now about non rotational ways to get non Seal Team entities traks. (seriously if ur in a raid guild on green push for an alliance now, you'll largely find that almost everyone who plays this game is likeminded. We're all nerds who enjoy everquest)

[adruidarkly]

Originally Posted by Twochain [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But it doesn't make much sense to me that Blue has 2 guilds with mages on poop mountain for 16 hours, but green doesn't.

Velious era windows in classic for a year do a number on trickle-over of poop-socking personalities.