Seal Team removes ourselves from all player agreements

[zodium]

Originally Posted by billcrystals [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's amusing to me that people think high level EverQuest raid content involves a lot of "skill." Of course it requires knowledge of the encounter and basic class competence, but you're lying to yourself if you think any of the raid guilds in question wouldn't be able to handle the mobs. Disingenuous (and silly) argument to say that Seal Team are somehow "more skilled" at the game than others.

yeah its insanely funny, everquest is like the easiest game in the world. its basically a 3d chatroom with some game mechanics.

[Danth]

If this game's so easy why on earth are so many players so incredibly bad at it?

[billcrystals]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If this game's so easy why on earth are so many players so incredibly bad at it?

I mean you can find someone who is terrible at anything, humans are a miraculous species full of utter dumbasses. But we're not talking about just anyone, we're talking about the top raid guilds, the server's top players. There is no objective "skill gap" between these people that is significant.

[Seducio]

Originally Posted by billcrystals [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

we're talking about the top raid guilds, the server's top players. There is no objective "skill gap" between these people that is significant.

This is a laughable statement.

[Seducio]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If this game's so easy why on earth are so many players so incredibly bad at it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_principle

Basically the 80/20 rule.

20% of any group typically are doing 80% of the work. The 80% of folks who are reaping the benefit without working as smart/hard don't learn much.

[zodium]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If this game's so easy why on earth are so many players so incredibly bad at it?

they aren't

[Danth]

How do you have a footrace for Trak'anon without running over and training people who're minding their own business grouping in the lower levels of Sebilis? One of my larger frustrations with the P99 raid scene is that the raiders seem to think they own the place and seldom notice or care who they run over in their pursuit of pixels. Let's not make it worse.

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Originally Posted by zodium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

they aren't

I hope you're joking.

Danth

[Twochain]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How do you have a footrace for Trak'anon without running over and training people who're minding their own business grouping in the lower levels of Sebilis? One of my larger frustrations with the P99 raid scene is that the raiders seem to think they own the place and seldom notice or care who they run over in their pursuit of pixels. Let's not make it worse.

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I hope you're joking.

Danth

Roll 5 minutes after spawn. Announce to the zone the event starts in 5 minutes and that if your camp is somewhere between entrance and trak's lair (Which realistically will only disrupt the spore king camp, unless of course a group is clearing down), to get to a safe spot? I don't think asking people to be careful for 5 minutes while the racers race is an outrageous proposal. Or ultra disruptive.

[Danth]

Originally Posted by Twochain [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think asking people to be careful for 5 minutes while the racers race is an outrageous proposal.

I do. I consider that an example of the very mindset I have a problem with. "Get out of our way, we have pixels to acquire!" Those silly raids aren't more important than anything else. Why are the people who're just trying to play the game supposed to be "careful" while the pixel-sick raiders run willy nilly all over everything? To heck with that. To that end, Call of the Hero down to lair works better since it keeps the pixel-mongers out of everyone else's hair. Let them fight amongst each other all they like as long as they leave the rest of the game alone. Any alternative rule set should strive to do the same for everyone's benefit rather than for the benefit only of the raid crowd.

Danth

[Nexii]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I do. I consider that an example of the very mindset I have a problem with. "Get out of our way, we have pixels to acquire!" Those silly raids aren't more important than anything else. Why are the people who're just trying to play the game supposed to be "careful" while the pixel-sick raiders run willy nilly all over everything? To heck with that. To that end, Call of the Hero down to lair works better since it keeps the pixel-mongers out of everyone else's hair. Let them fight amongst each other all they like as long as they leave the rest of the game alone. Any alternative rule set should strive to do the same for everyone's benefit rather than for the benefit only of the raid crowd.

Danth

I mean exactly that has been going on in KC and Velk's.