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Old 12-07-2020, 05:37 PM
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The whole reason why you are scared of viruses in the first place is that your own cells will replicate even a tiny dose.

In any case, it's possible that the CDC is correct and the American Association of Physicians is wrong. But it seems ridiculous to conclude that someone who has read both pages is dumber than someone who has only read one. Why not stop shitposting for 15 minutes and read their page? Or are you afraid of being wrong once in a while?
So we have a potentially deadly virus outbreak. And we have the CDC saying essentially "hey, the data shows that there's a good likelihood that doing this very minor thing that doesn't inconvenience you could save lives." So, if there's a likelihood that it could save lives, I am going to do it.

And you're saying "but hey go look at this page published by a conservative non-profit group that says the data is incorrect!"

I think in this case I'd rather err on the side of caution for everyone's sake and go with the data from the CDC (which IMO is a more legitimate source than a non-profit that has been proven to have political agendas in the past). If the CDC's data is accurate, then maybe I helped save someone's life (or, if they survive COVID, saved them from having other serious health complications in their later life due to having COVID)...and all I had to do is do something that doesn't inconvenience me at all and wear a mask when I go into a store or on public transportation etc.

And if the CDC's data ends up being inaccurate, then guess what it really didn't affect me negatively in any way because all I had to do was put a mask on inside. Such a burden!

Maybe if there weren't people like you around my friends and relatives who died of COVID would still be here.
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Old 12-07-2020, 06:03 PM
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AAPS is completely funded by membership dues and contributions, so we answer to and advocate for our physician members and not big corporate donors or government funding sources.
I can't believe you not only wrote an entire essay on why it would be dangerous for you to read peer-reviewed scientific papers that might contradict the Corporate/Government narrative, but then had the temerity to claim that my ignorance is killing people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunnin...3Kruger_effect
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Old 12-07-2020, 06:11 PM
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Oh wow, I'm reading the Atlantic hit piece on the AAPS and I can only say that I like them more.

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The association has promoted an array of discredited theories: childhood vaccines cause autism, illegal immigrants spread disease and abortion causes breast cancer, among others.
All of these are obviously true except the last one, which is true but not obvious.

Regardless of what you personally think about the AAPS, though, they are posting peer reviewed scientific papers, not their own personal opinions. It's just a collection of information. Refusing to read it because it might change your mind is basically admitting to intellectual impotence.
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Old 12-07-2020, 06:13 PM
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Oh wow, I'm reading the Atlantic hit piece on the AAPS and I can only say that I like them more.



All of these are obviously true except the last one, which is true but not obvious.

Regardless of what you personally think about the AAPS, though, they are posting peer reviewed scientific papers, not their own personal opinions. It's just a collection of information. Refusing to read it because it might change your mind is basically admitting to intellectual impotence.
Lol this comment gives anyone everything they need to know about your level of intelligence. I actually did laugh out loud when you posted this to support your argument.

But the good thing about people like you is this: if there weren't any stupid people, we'd all have the same amount of shit. Fortunately, people like you exist so that we intelligent people are valued more highly (i.e. paid more) to work in certain positions/industries.
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Old 12-07-2020, 06:19 PM
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Oh wow, I'm reading the Atlantic hit piece on the AAPS and I can only say that I like them more.



All of these are obviously true except the last one, which is true but not obvious.

Regardless of what you personally think about the AAPS, though, they are posting peer reviewed scientific papers, not their own personal opinions. It's just a collection of information. Refusing to read it because it might change your mind is basically admitting to intellectual impotence.
And btw, you didn't respond to my overall point at all. Interesting.

What is the downside to wearing a mask when you're inside in public places? How does that negatively affect your life in a substantial way? We can debate data and sources all we want, but the fact of the matter is there is data that shows it could be helpful. So why not just wear it on the off chance that it is helpful? It doesn't really affect you negatively to do so. I know it will be hard for you to form a coherent argument, but I'd really like to hear a coherent argument as to why you wouldn't wear the mask for the next couple months (until the vaccine is more widespread) just in case it helps.
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