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Old 06-25-2011, 04:19 PM
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All of the above is why I have no interest in hosting a server or wasting my time developing it.
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Old 06-25-2011, 04:33 PM
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no pvp on a box named eqpvp.com, sadface
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Old 06-25-2011, 05:05 PM
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All of the above is why I have no interest in hosting a server or wasting my time developing it.
If you had source that would make you as stable as p99 so you can get off the ground the right way, you would be singing a totally different tune.

For example, every new EQemu server that has ever came out (that mattered) has never had Quillmane working within the first month. Not even P99.


Why the shit does every person who wants to run an EQ server have to fix the SAME EXACT SHIT that has plagued every single new Emu server? We have no options because of it. People like Vile don't want to deal with that bullshit. People with tremendous ability don't even want to take part in it because of the greedy nature of bug fixing. Why spend 2 years wasting your life on problems that have been fixed over 20 times in the past year? It makes no sense, even with someone with great ability.

When you crowdsource issues, exploits, bugs, spawns, droprates, etc all these problems become the past. Because of the greed and stupidity, we have absolutely no options to play on a legitimate server.

Can't wait to play on the next pvp server where staff and shit code result in a terrible play experience.

Put Red99 in beta, we have been playing on worse piles of shit and love every second of it.
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Old 06-25-2011, 05:31 PM
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If you had source that would make you as stable as p99 so you can get off the ground the right way, you would be singing a totally different tune.

For example, every new EQemu server that has ever came out (that mattered) has never had Quillmane working within the first month. Not even P99.


Why the shit does every person who wants to run an EQ server have to fix the SAME EXACT SHIT that has plagued every single new Emu server? We have no options because of it. People like Vile don't want to deal with that bullshit. People with tremendous ability don't even want to take part in it because of the greedy nature of bug fixing. Why spend 2 years wasting your life on problems that have been fixed over 20 times in the past year? It makes no sense, even with someone with great ability.

When you crowdsource issues, exploits, bugs, spawns, droprates, etc all these problems become the past. Because of the greed and stupidity, we have absolutely no options to play on a legitimate server.

Can't wait to play on the next pvp server where staff and shit code result in a terrible play experience.

Put Red99 in beta, we have been playing on worse piles of shit and love every second of it.
Although i do not like you personally i think what you have said is a really sad and little known fact that really should have more light shed on it. You are absolutely correct - Take Project 1999 for example, I understand that people like Nilbog and Karnas put years of their lives into the code of our box and how much effort they have put into it but what is really the point if you don't use the code to further the Eqemu project as a whole? Imagine what kind of great balanced, stable servers we could have other then Project 1999 if Rogean/Nilbog shared the code. They are great people and Nilbog is a great developer and project manager but i do not understand this whole developer isolation thing.
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Old 06-26-2011, 05:23 AM
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but i do not understand this whole developer isolation thing.
Don't play stupid
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Old 06-25-2011, 06:19 PM
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If you had source that would make you as stable as p99 so you can get off the ground the right way, you would be singing a totally different tune.

For example, every new EQemu server that has ever came out (that mattered) has never had Quillmane working within the first month. Not even P99.


Why the shit does every person who wants to run an EQ server have to fix the SAME EXACT SHIT that has plagued every single new Emu server? We have no options because of it. People like Vile don't want to deal with that bullshit. People with tremendous ability don't even want to take part in it because of the greedy nature of bug fixing. Why spend 2 years wasting your life on problems that have been fixed over 20 times in the past year? It makes no sense, even with someone with great ability.

When you crowdsource issues, exploits, bugs, spawns, droprates, etc all these problems become the past. Because of the greed and stupidity, we have absolutely no options to play on a legitimate server.

Can't wait to play on the next pvp server where staff and shit code result in a terrible play experience.

Put Red99 in beta, we have been playing on worse piles of shit and love every second of it.
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Old 06-25-2011, 08:31 PM
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I had some fun on Stasis, wasn't a complete waste of time and got my EQ fix in while I wait for red99. I don't think Image/devnoob were totally awful gms, they helped fix/patch a lot of shit and were very active with the server.

Doesn't make much sense to me to ban someone over nuking behind a zoneline even if it was intentional, as far as im concerned in-game mechanic exploits shouldn't even be punishable - delete the progress/remove anything received patch it and move on. Duping is possibly an exception to this as I'm sure there are a few others, regardless I won't be wasting anymore of my time on little emu projects with no credible staff - tired of low population shitty servers that are destined to be turned off.
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Old 06-26-2011, 05:17 PM
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If you had source that would make you as stable as p99 so you can get off the ground the right way, you would be singing a totally different tune.

For example, every new EQemu server that has ever came out (that mattered) has never had Quillmane working within the first month. Not even P99.


Why the shit does every person who wants to run an EQ server have to fix the SAME EXACT SHIT that has plagued every single new Emu server? We have no options because of it. People like Vile don't want to deal with that bullshit. People with tremendous ability don't even want to take part in it because of the greedy nature of bug fixing. Why spend 2 years wasting your life on problems that have been fixed over 20 times in the past year? It makes no sense, even with someone with great ability.

When you crowdsource issues, exploits, bugs, spawns, droprates, etc all these problems become the past. Because of the greed and stupidity, we have absolutely no options to play on a legitimate server.

Can't wait to play on the next pvp server where staff and shit code result in a terrible play experience.

Put Red99 in beta, we have been playing on worse piles of shit and love every second of it.
If you made p99 open source, someone could just start a rival classic server because of some petty grievance they have with a GM. This is literally the worst possible idea anyone could ever have.
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Old 06-26-2011, 05:36 PM
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If you made p99 open source, someone could just start a rival classic server because of some petty grievance they have with a GM. This is literally the worst possible idea anyone could ever have.
You're such a commie bro

You do understand that if rival servers pop up overnight it would be in this servers best interest? Do you not understand how many trolls, griefers, and asshats would migrate simply due to a fresh start or a more liberal rule set? Do you not understand that if there were rival servers P99 would probably step up in the development area due to more time and resources devoted away from in-game petitions?
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Old 06-26-2011, 05:40 PM
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If you made p99 open source, someone could just start a rival classic server because of some petty grievance they have with a GM. This is literally the worst possible idea anyone could ever have.
The notion that anyone with p99 code could just start a rival server is silly; of course, I'm not taking what the word 'rival' entails lightly. You're giving no credit to the community or the leadership of the server. Furthermore, you're missing the point of open source.
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