Reading UN channel, whos the villian?

[feniin]

Let the suspension play out for another 6-8 weeks. Detoxx can't handle it and he's cracking.

[turbosilk]

Originally Posted by kaizersoze [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Or do much harsher penalties. Like a 1 week / 2 week full out raid suspension and loot deletion. People will be on their best behavior then.

The penalties obviously aren't harsh enough. There's been a raid guild suspension on average every 1.5 months for the last 5 years. Even with 30+ day suspensions.

You have to identify the rotten apples, permaban them and rinse and repeat when they show back up. They aren't paying customers (nor are any of us) and yet they end up making it a non-paying job for the server GMs to put up with their toxic behaviour. Good riddance.

[Gatordash]

Originally Posted by feniin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let the suspension play out for another 6-8 weeks. Detoxx can't handle it and he's cracking.

Thats the spirit. No one play for another 2 months. The suspension is now the game. Thanks Riot.

[littlebabs]

Originally Posted by Naonak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Every time AM/AM2.0/Guild/RnG/Ghost/Ghxst and now Freedom start and enter the raiding scene, rule breaking and petitions get out of hand and GM just ban 3 guilds, instead of resolving the issues. Which are still the same issues now.

This ---- The GMs know who the continued toxic players are and have been over how many years? Isn't old AM leading Seal Team on Green. Bet that's heading down the same road.

Not that hard to recognize patterns.

[reznor_]

Originally Posted by feniin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let the suspension play out for another 6-8 weeks. Detoxx can't handle it and he's cracking.

Lol irl

[turbosilk]

Originally Posted by feniin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let the suspension play out for another 6-8 weeks. Detoxx can't handle it and he's cracking.

That much suspension time isn't new and it's still groundhog day. Gonna take more than that.

[Zoggren]

Originally Posted by feniin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let the suspension play out for another 6-8 weeks. Detoxx can't handle it and he's cracking.

Says the guy with 3000 posts in the last week.

[Baler]

I take it current "management"-(their words) doesn't pow-wow like sirken did back in the day with all the guild leaders. eh, probably for the best.

[Asteria]

Originally Posted by Hrothgar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Whole thing is too strange to be fiction, and too sad to be funny.

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by Psyborg [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So here's the thought process for that and the reasons it ended up in both Freedom's and AG's proposals. Stiff punishments for petitions that get escalated to GMs means that guilds are far more likely to solve our quarrels through guild to guild mediation. We could go petition by petition and most or all of those would have been resolved before it ever reached a GM.

We would love to see Riot get on board with this.

I raided from 2012 to 2018 on this server off and on. Stiffer penalties has never made guilds work together. It always does the opposite. The stiffer the penalties get the more petitions guilds put in as a tactic to reduce competition.