2020 Election MEGAthread

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's because they are (of course, so are the Republicans). Have you read the list of politicians connected to Epstein? And those are only the ones we know about! Satanists and pedophiles are perfect candidates for middle management: they are willing to mercilessly oppress the general population and they can be easily blackmailed.



Exactly! By the way, this isn't just some other person's problem. There were about 6 months in 2019 where I really thought Q was legit. This is the problem with psychology PhDs: they can weave a very convincing story! After all, the Democrats are satanists and pedophiles. The media does constantly attack Trump. But at this point I'm fairly sure Q is the NSA.

The big flaw in Q's illusion is his message: sit back and watch the show. If you think about it, only individual Americans could make America great again. Trump is an elderly, rather overweight, man. He can only ask us to do things. But the idea that he can clean up this mess without us having to get off our couches is so incredibly convenient that when combined with a bit of truth it's very persuasive.



The sad fact of the matter is that there are some 20% of Americans whose existence is totally bound up in the current state of affairs. Some of them are hopeless social services leeches. Others are part of the propaganda apparatus. Yet others are addicted to the feeling of preaching. I don't know whether Pretzelle is one of those or a random Chinese gold farmer. But these people will actively fight any sort of solution. Perhaps some sort of California quarantine . . .



I skimmed the first article. It is more COVID hysteria. The idea that anyone needs a plan to deal with THE FLU is ridiculous. Guess what: people do not live forever. The average American COVID victim is 75 with multiple health conditions. Their average life expectancy is some 5 years. Even if we took the doctored COVID stats at face value, 200,000 * 5 * 365 / 300000000 = 1.2, meaning that the average American has lost ONE DAY of life to COVID. Personally I think the whole thing is a complete fraud, but I don't even need to make that argument because the official narrative on COVID is that fucking stupid.

Remember Orwell's 'doublethink'? Magazines like Scientific American are actually anti science. There really isn't much difference between the average Catholic peon of the Medieval period and the average modern peon quoting 'Science' and taking his vaccines.



That's because masks don't work. Not only are there loads of studies that prove this, but there is no logical reason why they should work, as viruses are thousands of times smaller than even N95 surgical mask holes. It's like trying to stop mosquitoes with a chain link fence.


Ah yes, if your neighbor is jumping off a cliff you should follow him like a good little lemming. Besides, doesn't this argument work just as well in the other direction?

Gatmanno really nailed it when he said you worship Mammon. You're a lot less obvious than Pretzelle.

Zodium is a Marxist who has extolled the virtues of mao killing the landlords in China. And I worship mammon?

The point is that people don’t have confidence in going out because they’re afraid. Leadership might’ve mitigated that. Procedures for minimizing infection certainly would’ve. China, Taiwan, Japan, and Korea are open for business

We should be too, but rednecks won’t wear masks for their country. SAD!

[Mblake81]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We should be too, but rednecks won’t wear masks for their country. SAD!

Take that, shape it into a nice cone shape.. then sit on it.

[BlackBellamy]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The point is that people don’t have confidence in going out because they’re afraid. Leadership might’ve mitigated that. Procedures for minimizing infection certainly would’ve. China, Taiwan, Japan, and Korea are open for business

We should be too, but rednecks won’t wear masks for their country. SAD!

I wouldn't compare US to Asia. The cultures and peoples couldn't possibly be more different. Compare US to EU instead.

Effects of lockdown compliance (including virtue-signaling but nearly-useless measures like mask-wearing for the healthy):

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So let's look back.

Coronavirus comes on strong in March and April. Both EU and US announce lockdown measures. The Europeans comply like the good order-followers they are. The US, not so much since we have a system where every governor gets to ignore any federal orders as they please. Some states like New York and New Jersey imprison everyone inside but other states are defiant.

So June comes and the EU folks are all locked down and the US people are starting to really get tired of it and start breaking the rules even more. The US infection rate spikes...then starts to go lower at precisely the same time the EU rate starts to go up. That's weird right? Like the EU has been following the rules completely!

Then in September the lines nearly meet, then they both start trending up because the weather is getting colder and the traditional flu season is just around the corner. But the US rate is much lower and also not trending at the same rate. What is going on? Why are the non-mask wearing rule-breaking Americans doing better than the Europeans?

[Pretzelle]

Originally Posted by BlackBellamy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I wouldn't compare US to Asia. The cultures and peoples couldn't possibly be more different. Compare US to EU instead.

Effects of lockdown compliance (including virtue-signaling but nearly-useless measures like mask-wearing for the healthy):

[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So let's look back.

Coronavirus comes on strong in March and April. Both EU and US announce lockdown measures. The Europeans comply like the good order-followers they are. The US, not so much since we have a system where every governor gets to ignore any federal orders as they please. Some states like New York and New Jersey imprison everyone inside but other states are defiant.

So June comes and the EU folks are all locked down and the US people are starting to really get tired of it and start breaking the rules even more. The US infection rate spikes...then starts to go lower at precisely the same time the EU rate starts to go up. That's weird right? Like the EU has been following the rules completely!

Then in September the lines nearly meet, then they both start trending up because the weather is getting colder and the traditional flu season is just around the corner. But the US rate is much lower and also not trending at the same rate. What is going on? Why are the non-mask wearing rule-breaking Americans doing better than the Europeans?

Which individual EU countries are experiencing the largest increases in Covid diagnoses?

[charmcitysking]

Originally Posted by Pretzelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Which individual EU countries are experiencing the largest increases in Covid diagnoses?

Confirmed Ireland - we had 1,200 cases yesterday (quite high for our population and more than we've had at any point during the pandemic.

France had 80,000 in one day this week (Monday or Tuesday I believe).

EU is a mess right now.

[FatherSioux]

Originally Posted by charmcitysking [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Confirmed Ireland - we had 1,200 cases yesterday (quite high for our population and more than we've had at any point during the pandemic.

France had 80,000 in one day this week (Monday or Tuesday I believe).

EU is a mess right now.

The truth is stacking up to one simple fact. No one knew how to handle this in February. They don't know how to handle it today. People need to quit pretending that we can actually impact the natural course of this.

[Mota]

Originally Posted by FatherSioux [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People need to quit pretending that we can actually impact the natural course of this.

What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

[BlackBellamy]

Originally Posted by Mota [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Imagine believing conspiracies when they involve evil leftists but not thinking this laptop is fishy.

Originally Posted by BlackBellamy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

responded before but also..

Guiliani was on Crowder's podcast https://www.facebook.com/stevencrowd...72240174224258

He claims Hunter Biden's lawyer contacted him regarding the drive and asked for it back. I'm not sure how much proof anyone needs that something belongs to someone when they ask to have it back because it's theirs. Rudy says he has emails from the lawyer and I mean those either are real or not and super-easy to verify because it's Hunter Biden's lawyer not Putin.

Second, and I credit Matt Taibbi, so the Russians found a hard drive with real pictures of Hunter Biden with a meth pipe -- but then they added fake emails to the drive? Like that makes sense? Really? Or they constructed the entire drive from scratch, with all the content on it, with the pornos of Hunter they already had, and the meth pictures they already had, and they added those emails to the thousands of innocent emails they also constructed?

I'm really trying, really really, to give as much credit as I can do the old and yet still-somehow-current Democrat rant that "Putin did everything!" but I'm coming up blank.

[Mota]

Originally Posted by BlackBellamy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I wouldn't compare US to Asia. The cultures and peoples couldn't possibly be more different. Compare US to EU instead.

Effects of lockdown compliance (including virtue-signaling but nearly-useless measures like mask-wearing for the healthy):

[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So let's look back.

Coronavirus comes on strong in March and April. Both EU and US announce lockdown measures. The Europeans comply like the good order-followers they are. The US, not so much since we have a system where every governor gets to ignore any federal orders as they please. Some states like New York and New Jersey imprison everyone inside but other states are defiant.

So June comes and the EU folks are all locked down and the US people are starting to really get tired of it and start breaking the rules even more. The US infection rate spikes...then starts to go lower at precisely the same time the EU rate starts to go up. That's weird right? Like the EU has been following the rules completely!

Then in September the lines nearly meet, then they both start trending up because the weather is getting colder and the traditional flu season is just around the corner. But the US rate is much lower and also not trending at the same rate. What is going on? Why are the non-mask wearing rule-breaking Americans doing better than the Europeans?

Put strong restrictions in place, do better than US. Lesson restrictions, EU gets as bad as US. Is this suppose to be revelatory? Not to mention the US and EU aren't monoliths but a patchwork of responses. My state is has some of the lowest rates in the US, we're doing a really good job keeping cases down and are about half the US per capita rate. Germany's numbers are about 1/3 of my state and makes us look like we have no clue what the fuck we're doing. But EU bad right?

[BlackBellamy]

Originally Posted by Mota [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is this suppose to be revelatory?

I'm just saying there we were, and here we are. The EU as a whole definitely locked down earlier and harder and for longer and more consistently than the US and what difference did it make today? At this moment?

Originally Posted by Mota [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But EU bad right?

Future people will decide whether we did good or bad ultimately or who did worse. Many years from now statisticians will be able to pour through all the records and maybe declare that for every 1 person we saved from a severe respiratory infection we condemned 1 person to die from suicide, 1 person to die from hunger, and 1 person to die from untreated medical conditions and we also collectively lowered the IQ of the entire world by 5 points due to lack of proper schooling.

Boy are we going to look motherfucking stupendously stupid then. If they say that, that is. We'll know later - we don't know shit now.