How strong a Shaman that never gets Torpor?

[douglas1999]

Yeah that's true, but it's still a question of given all available spells gear and abilities, who can solo the hardest things? Or you can measure it by some other metric of course, but I do think that's the most important one to consider. I mean tbh both classes are insanely op, so it's sorta like rich guys arguing over who has a bigger golden yacht.