Is everybody insane?

[Theldios]

Originally Posted by Goofier [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bullshit, and you said it yourself. It's about responsible teaching. Sometimes the only thing that will have the appropriate impact is a reasonable amount of physical reinforcement.

Please note the use of the words sometimes, appropriate, and reasonable. This does not mean beating a kid into fear or the hospital.

Physical reinforcment is not responsible teaching. It is the last resort of those who do not know how to deal with a child. Again i have NEVER hit my children and 2 of the 3 are grown men who are good productive members of society
the 3rd is only a small child still and he will never be hit in any manner by me or my wife for discipline. Violence in any form is never the answer

[Goofier]

Originally Posted by Theldios [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Physical reinforcment is not responsible teaching. It is the last resort of those who do not know how to deal with a child. Again i have NEVER hit my children and 2 of the 3 are grown men who are good productive members of society
the 3rd is only a small child still and he will never be hit in any manner by me or my wife for discipline. Violence in any form is never the answer

Oh, you fucking morons.

First, congradulations, and I sincerely mean that. If that works for you, great, and wonderful.

This is NOT the case with ALL children.

Second, if you are going to join the bandwagon of people misunderstanding the usage of the word 'violence' when compared to, 'physical' in this context, then shut the fuck up.

Again I will try this:

I'm not advocating violence. I'm not advocating abuse. You are trying to make it sound that way. I'm talking about rational enforcement of behavioral standards through physical means that do not include abuse. Stop trying to make me sound like a childbeater, you stupid, holier-than-thou motherfuckers. If you can't wrap your brain around that, go hug your kids and keep deluding yourself into thinking that any form of physical contact is abuse.

[Theldios]

Originally Posted by Goofier [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh, you fucking morons.

First, congradulations, and I sincerely mean that. If that works for you, great, and wonderful.

This is NOT the case with ALL children.

Second, if you are going to join the bandwagon of people misunderstanding the usage of the word 'violence' when compared to, 'physical' in this context, then shut the fuck up.

Again I will try this:

I'm not advocating violence. I'm not advocating abuse. You are trying to make it sound that way. I'm talking about rational enforcement of behavioral standards through physical means that do not include abuse. Stop trying to make me sound like a childbeater, you stupid, holier-than-thou motherfuckers. If you can't wrap your brain around that, go hug your kids and keep deluding yourself into thinking that any form of physical contact is abuse.

your a moron
not much more to say than that
Hitting is violence. there is no such thing as resonable hitting period
It is a violent act and you are teching your child violence. plan and simple
no if ands or buts about it.
Hitting is a violent act
No one ever said you were a child beater you have been trying this whole time to justify the of hitting a child as a disciplinary measure. I disagree and think that it is the last resort of those who do not know any better