Who started it?

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Stickyfingers [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Galach already fed up with you guys and gave us a thumbs up in the UN channel vote. But you won't accept that. So soon enough you will just accept rooted dragons.

Well it would be a shame if Galach got manipulated/played by a bunch of proven shit-stirrers before he reads this thread where you were handed a solution that meets all your needs, and still didn't accept it because it would effectively stop you from stirring shit on everyone else putting effort into working together.

To re-iterate:

1) A guild who has claimed in this very thread that they are only interested in doing FGs as raid content does not need a vote on proposals pertaining to content outside of FGs.

2) A slot in the rotation and voting rights on proposals that only concern FGs should therefore meet all your needs.

3) A guild who only fields 2-3 tag-along players to the 7-day targets, as admitted to by DMO in this thread, should not require a vote in serverwide raid politics.

DMO is too busy patting themselves on the back and spinning their own propaganda to realize how hard they dunked themselves in this thread.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1) A guild who has claimed in this very thread that they are only interested in doing FGs as raid content does not need a vote on proposals pertaining to content outside of FGs.

We raid major targets with another guild for content just like you do and win. Believe me, it's way more than just fire giants. That's why you're refusing a vote. It due to tremendous ass hurt because of our alliance. Everyone knows it. You can say otherwise, and make something up then claim victory because a few other unhinged people will say so too but its the truth.

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

2) A slot in the rotation and voting rights on proposals that only concern FGs should therefore meet all your needs.

Many of the other guilds dont show up for their slots and are less skilled than us. How do you think we keep getting tranix? We're the oldest guild in green history, the first guild on the beta. The UN has separated concept of voting from mobs. We didn't do that, you did. We request a vote for balance in things, seeing as how there are certain guilds that never vote differently from each other (which can be proved). Your guild is one of those guilds!

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

3) A guild who only fields 2-3 tag-along players to the 7-day targets, as admitted to by DMO in this thread, should not require a vote in serverwide raid politics.

Wrong, we only say if you feel like coming to come and we have the camp handled.

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

DMO is too busy patting themselves on the back and spinning their own propaganda to realize how hard they dunked themselves in this thread.

As far as you declaring who is dunking who, like what have you gained or won at all? I'm enjoying win after win with my #1 new EQ pals. We are enjoying a tremendous amount of success along with legally camping the current most valuable small man mob in the game as much as we want. I cannot imagine running a 120+ crew in classic just to vote stack and corrupt a player created organization. That is real embarrassing. Velious? Sure.

One lie after another is being exposed and the low base INT scummery being resorted to is fully on display. Ya'll should be embarrassed. I'd love to see you run a strict RP charter like this and win anything, you wouldn't.

[Lostfaction]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We're the oldest guild in green history.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Stickyfingers [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Id make a concious effort to make every DMO raid though, which is what I do when we hold Tranix.

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We raid major targets with another guild for content just like you do and win. Believe me, it's way more than just fire giants.

Originally Posted by Phaezed-Reality [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

alot of DMO does not raid with ST, there is like 3 of us that do.

Originally Posted by Phaezed-Reality [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I like how they completely twist my words repeatedly to fit their twisted narrative. I said we are doing what we always wanted to do. And they think that's trolling. No, we petitioned to join the UN so we could do tranix. We are now doing tranix.

I know it's difficult because all you do is troll and spew propaganda so it's hard to keep track of which of your buddies said what so you can go backtrack, but can you guys please at least get your stories straight?

Again: Three people tagging along on <Seal Team> raids does not earn you full voting rights in all matters concerning raid content on the server any more than three <Light Women of Faydwer> tag-alongs on a <Kingdom> raid on Nagafen would give them full voting rights on all matters concerning all raid content on the server. Anyone here with at least 30 INT can see that. What high INT mental gymnastics can you perform to show otherwise?

[Shaquilleos]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know it's difficult because all you do is troll and spew propaganda so it's hard to keep track of which of your buddies said what so you can go backtrack, but can you guys please at least get your stories straight?

Again: Three people tagging along on <Seal Team> raids does not earn you full voting rights in all matters concerning raid content on the server any more than three <Light Women of Faydwer> tag-alongs on a <Kingdom> raid on Nagafen would give them full voting rights on all matters concerning all raid content on the server. Anyone here with at least 30 INT can see that. What high INT mental gymnastics can you perform to show otherwise?

Oof used to think you had it together. Crumbling in here. Look what I can do: Black Lotus and Venerate et. al tagging along with Kingdom does not earn you full voting rights in all matters concerning content on the server. Cant wait to see Black Lotus competing against Kingdom and Venerate this weekend. Right? You’re all independent can kill your own targets and deserve unique vote right?

In reality, you have cherry picked and highlighted much out of context. It has been clearly communicated we want all rotational content slots and a vote or nothing. Can you tell me what gets voted on in the UN and why that is a problem? Is that because playing fair and by the rules doesnt work in your favor? Double PhDs got you on your knees with checks and balances.

Why isn't a problem that a 3-guild alliance has 3-unique votes, but Seal Team’s ally should not be allowed a unique vote? Yep we’re the gas lighters in this situation. LOL! I bet you ignore that. The problem is its a majority vote system and you lose so much you are straight spooked by DMO’s ascension. We have you so immersed your frothing in defense of toxicity and gatekeeping.

One thing we will not tolerate is this absolute disrespect for our guild mates who do not raid with Seal Team. We are more capable on our own than several standing UN guilds who have voting rights and skip their rotation slots.

Oh and can you describe what its like wiping at Phinny? Never done it b4 but heard you have experience as a guild.

[gherron]

Originally Posted by Shaquilleos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oof used to think you had it together. Crumbling in here. Look what I can do: Black Lotus and Venerate et. al tagging along with Kingdom does not earn you full voting rights in all matters concerning content on the server. Cant wait to see Black Lotus competing against Kingdom and Venerate this weekend. Right? You’re all independent can kill your own targets and deserve unique vote right?

In reality, you have cherry picked and highlighted much out of context. It has been clearly communicated we want all rotational content slots and a vote or nothing. Can you tell me what gets voted on in the UN and why that is a problem? Is that because playing fair and by the rules doesnt work in your favor? Double PhDs got you on your knees with checks and balances.

Why isn't a problem that a 3-guild alliance has 3-unique votes, but Seal Team’s ally should not be allowed a unique vote? Yep we’re the gas lighters in this situation. LOL! I bet you ignore that. The problem is its a majority vote system and you lose so much you are straight spooked by DMO’s ascension. We have you so immersed your frothing in defense of toxicity and gatekeeping.

One thing we will not tolerate is this absolute disrespect for our guild mates who do not raid with Seal Team. We are more capable on our own than several standing UN guilds who have voting rights and skip their rotation slots.

Oh and can you describe what its like wiping at Phinny? Never done it b4 but heard you have experience as a guild.

Aren't those guilds you listed pretty huge? I mean, it's not like only 3 members of them go to raids with the bigger guild though. It would be pretty messed up if that were the case. I think you're comparing apples to oranges here, don't blame you for trying to push your agenda though.