New Lodizal Agreement Proposal

[RevSaber]

Why not just do /picks and AoCs at this point... Smh...

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by RevSaber [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why not just do /picks and AoCs at this point... Smh...

Great question! I’m sure there are almost as many answers to this question as there are players.

Here is my answer: Because a complaint about instances is they reduce the world by removing community, whereas consensus and cooperation is the opposite of that.

[jolanar]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Great question! I’m sure there are almost as many answers to this question as there are players.

Here is my answer: Because a complaint about instances is they reduce the world by removing community, whereas consensus and cooperation is the opposite of that.

Is it really a consensus though? Do the majority of the players even visit the forums regularly? Or is it 30 or 40 forumquesters who probably don't even play much anymore deciding these things?

[elwing]

I don't like this agreement but I hate the cheaters autofireing even more..

[Lotxi]

Originally Posted by jolanar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is it really a consensus though? Do the majority of the players even visit the forums regularly? Or is it 30 or 40 forumquesters who probably don't even play much anymore deciding these things?

It's definitely not people on the forums deciding how these things work. As Loramin mentioned with regards to the Shady Goblin roll, it doesn't matter what people on the forum decide unless you convince people on the ground to go along with the agreement. Just look at the ring 8 poll for a great example of this: an overwhelming majority of forum responders support changing how the roll works but that doesn't mean the roll has changed or will change as a result.

[kaizersoze]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Great question! I’m sure there are almost as many answers to this question as there are players.

Here is my answer: Because a complaint about instances is they reduce the world by removing community, whereas consensus and cooperation is the opposite of that.

If by removing community you mean people can schedule raids and have lives outside of socking for 16 hours just to not kill said mob, yeah, it removes the community.

Instances came because the people who were getting paid running it realized people could not feasibly sustain healthy relationships, stable jobs, and poopsock 17 hours a day and wake up at 3am as a functioning adult who pays their sub fees. Lets not forget there was still open world bosses once instances came out, but a single guild monopolizing everything also ceased to exist. None of that really matters since this is free though.

[LazyHydras]

Originally Posted by kaizersoze [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If by removing community you mean people can schedule raids and have lives outside of socking for 16 hours just to not kill said mob, yeah, it removes the community.

Instances came because the people who were getting paid running it realized people could not feasibly sustain healthy relationships, stable jobs, and poopsock 17 hours a day and wake up at 3am as a functioning adult who pays their sub fees. Lets not forget there was still open world bosses once instances came out, but a single guild monopolizing everything also ceased to exist. None of that really matters since this is free though.

Very good point. I think that MMORPGs since the year 2000 have proven that you can have instanced raid content while still maintaining a level of hardcore play that is not "casual friendly." Classic WoW was evidence of this with the difficulty of Naxxramas.