Good fix Nilbog, but how about making this playable now?

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Hyjalx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Seriously though, it makes zero sense that we would promote 100+ man raids (rooted dragons) in favor of small guilds being able to actively compete for targets. (unrooted dragons).

North dragons need to just die in north wing and be done with it. The first 5-6 were pulled to zone in during Velious era. This isn't speculation.... this is fact. Anyone who actually played during this era knows it.

Why even argue it anymore?

I feel like you're ignoring two basic facts.

1. pulling dragons to zone is unclasic*,
2. pulling dragons to zone is an exploit

To clarify that asterisk, yes: dragons 100% did get pulled to zone during Velious. No one contests that ... just like no one contests that rotations did happen on some servers during Velious, or that AoE groups happened (I know Fu people who did them in Sebilis during Kunark!)

But even so, the staff has been crystal clear (as recently as the newest patch thread) about the fact that this place is not just about classic mechanics: it's about classic experience. 25-mob limits never existed on live but having the limit is a million times more classic than Chardok being only for AoE groups and Overthere being only for AoE bards. AoE limits are "more classic" than the literal classic mechanic.

If you want to "prove" pulling dragons is classic, you can't just prove "it was possible": you have to demonstrate that most servers spent most of Velious pulling dragons. But even if you proved that ... it only solves #1! As long as the devs consider fighting dragons at ZL to be an exploit, you still have #2 ... and good luck with that, because Verant provided strong, strong evidence that even they considered it an exploit (by rooting the dragons shortly after the end of Velious).

So I 100% agree with you about what Fu did on Bristlebane. If I had any doubts, I have the numbers of multiple ex-Fu members in my phone, and I could call and ask them ... but that's not the issue. The issue is whether it's classic (in P99 terms), and whether it's an exploit.