Rogue pickpocketing

[Abacab]

Originally Posted by President [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So.. you basically just want to be able to do it so you can be a bigger griefer is what you are saying.

Really, I'm not sure how any of the arguments you have made so far will bring anyone to vote your direction.

Not everyone who tries to win a vote uses the best means to get that

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Though I'm just stating both sides, to grief is to EQ that's a fact that's been there since Xerxes was rolling around. Aside from the negative connotations you feel about losing out on 12k items, it's still a classic function.

The only thing that makes this difficult for you guys to accept is unlike other classic functions (Xp penalties) changing the rule set on this would harm everyone else besides rogues as it's something that the class innately should do! Rangers track, Paladins LoH, Shadowknights HT, Monks FD and Rogues pickpocket... So I dont understand why keeping it nerfed is essential other than reducing the amount of /qq?

[President]

Originally Posted by Abacab [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not everyone who tries to win a vote uses the best means to get that

Though I'm just stating both sides, to grief is to EQ that's a fact that's been there since Xerxes was rolling around. Aside from the negative connotations you feel about losing out on 12k items, it's still a classic function.

If you're an asshole.

Originally Posted by Abacab [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only thing that makes this difficult for you guys to accept is unlike other classic functions (Xp penalties) changing the rule set on this would harm everyone else besides rogues as it's something that the class innately should do! Rangers track, Paladins LoH, Shadowknights HT, Monks FD and Rogues pickpocket... So I dont understand why keeping it nerfed is essential other than reducing the amount of /qq?

How about, like the current Dev's, you quit playing on the server, and become an unpaid Petition answerer/Dev, and then we can see what your point of view is on additional /qq.

After a little searching I found this:

"2.14. Can I pickpocket quest items?

Yes, if the item is not being wielded or worn and it's not magic."

So obviously this was taken out of the game as some point... seeing If can track down when. Also would take out the majority of the items you would want to pickpocket as I believe something like the FBSS would be considered "worn" since the frog gets haste from it.

[Abacab]

Originally Posted by President [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"2.14. Can I pickpocket quest items?

Yes, if the item is not being wielded or worn and it's not magic."

So obviously this was taken out of the game as some point... seeing If can track down when. Also would take out the majority of the items you would want to pickpocket as I believe something like the FBSS would be considered "worn" since the frog gets haste from it.

Not true, I can pickpocket small round shields from halfling and neriak guards and those would constitute as wielded and worn would they not?

[Abacab]

Originally Posted by President [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How about, like the current Dev's, you quit playing on the server, and become an unpaid Petition answerer/Dev, and then we can see what your point of view is on additional /qq.

You're asking how Abacab would handle the sheer amount of QQ? I just lock people behind locked doors, qeynos jail, or Z coordination boxes, drop them in the middle of nowhere, PvP flag the parties and let them duke it out.

Generally just terrorize people to the point that they're afraid to /petition so it forces them to be civil and solve it themselves. Kind of hard to /qq when the result is being dropped right on top of the spiroc lord when sky isn't even accessible yet.

In other words I'd be a terrible GM/guide/Dev but I'd be fun!

[President]

Originally Posted by Abacab [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're asking how Abacab would handle the sheer amount of QQ? I just lock people behind locked doors, qeynos jail, or Z coordination boxes, drop them in the middle of nowhere, PvP flag the parties and let them duke it out.

Generally just terrorize people to the point that they're afraid to /petition so it forces them to be civil and solve it themselves. Kind of hard to /qq when the result is being dropped right on top of the spiroc lord when sky isn't even accessible yet.

In other words I'd be a terrible GM/guide/Dev but I'd be fun!

Exactly, you couldn't handle it.


Well, if you can pickpocket worn items then maybe thats a bug that needs to get fixed, because I got that off a Rogue reference for EverQuest.

[Abacab]

Originally Posted by President [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Exactly, you couldn't handle it.

I can handle it cause my GM method is no different than the political terror tactics of:

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[President]

Originally Posted by Abacab [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can handle it cause my GM method is no different than the political terror tactics of:

Well I didn't really want it to come to this but seriously dude, you're retarded.