Raid Suspension: The Heretics 30 days

[Dvusz]

Originally Posted by Ivah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hey look a guy who is always bashing people in positions of authority is now trying to play nice! Get tired of your crusade to execute members law enforcement yet?

What? lol

[funnland]

"Oh, it wasn't my fault! I didn't gain anything by being in a guild that cheats raid content by lying to GMs and breaking their valuable trust"



yeah. we have heard that defense before. Through the moon door with you.



P.S

I hope this does not impact Heretics motivation to spawn Fungi Kings for Apex.

[Baugi]

Originally Posted by catalystguild [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Anyone who gained anything from island 8, until bees and sisters were killed, was a participant in the scummery.

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Discord text and audio were leaking like a sieve about it. Until recently tons of people had full disc access that weren't even playing on r99.

Not accurate. To the best of my knowledge, Heretics hadn't killed eye for months prior to a raid on 3/24 during which we also killed bees/sister. The vast majority of members had no idea that this occurred eight months ago, nor is it reasonable to expect a member to question how their Plane of Sky summoner was original placed.

[jakedubbleya]

Originally Posted by funnland [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"Oh, it wasn't my fault! I didn't gain anything by being in a guild that cheats raid content by lying to GMs and breaking their valuable trust"

I think y'all know I ain't one for getting in on the drama but this is just a bad take and I keep seeing it.

It's raid content, technically, but from what I gather it had nothing to do with any actual raids, it was a small man "exploit" of a stupid request by a single person who happened to be an officer of a guild that is 100x what it was back then.

I've been in just about every major guild on this server, and I've seen no "cheating of raid content" since I've been in Heretic. Any tie of what Heretic does as a guild in 2020 to what one person did after a PvP event in 2019 is pure dramatic hyperbole.

What's worse is Heretic is SO OBVIOUSLY the lifeblood of the server, and this is just a symptom of personal hatreds and insecurities getting out of hand. This petty rivalry between guilds is absurd and childish. Even Apex is better off with Heretic getting big because they have something to do, that's obvious and undeniable. So what exactly is there to gain from this kind of antagonistic, unreasonable behavior? Not to say this is unique to Apex/Heretic/Others, but the drama is ridiculous, it's personal, it's toxic and it leads to this kind of server toxicosis, where individuals are willing to do anything, including wrecking the server during this pandemic, for the sake of discord points or ooc lols.

I'm speaking out now only because Tatonka is now unplayable for a month, I admit that, but I go out of my way to play by the rules on this server, and here I am sitting out for doing nothing even remotely wrong while I see people that I know box or bot or exploit in any number of ways feign shock and horror at seeing one dude do something very straightforwardly dumb, then celebrate the re-death of the server just as it was getting going again. I don't hate anyone in Apex, I like you dudes, y'all know that, but come on.

/forumquest