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Old 02-24-2020, 12:01 PM
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Having played both a troll and ogre shaman, the difference is night and day. I would choose Ogre hands down, but that’s my opinion and my reasons being that FSI is far more important than regen end game and so is having maximum HP/STA/resists which ogre gets much easier. Ogre has the advantage in a big way during “oh shit” moments, which on a shaman are the only time you will die. If everything goes according to plan it won’t matter.

Bonus: trolls start with -20 FR mod.

You've stated that FSI is "more important end game", but you have failed to substantiate that claim in any meaningful way.
Bonus: trolls get snare.
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Old 02-24-2020, 12:18 PM
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You've stated that FSI is "more important end game", but you have failed to substantiate that claim in any meaningful way.
Bonus: trolls get snare.
It’s super easy to position yourself where a mob isn’t going to flee, plus that snare is a 6 second cast for 6 ticks of snare, pretty shitty. Plus most likely your mob will already be rooted...Honestly of the clickies I’d rather have fear undead and animal. Allowing you a quick cast interrupt of these species. Being able to interrupt a CH or nasty spell is a better utility than that shitty snare(think soloing seb crypt) or HS(is drusella flagged undead?)
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Old 02-24-2020, 03:49 PM
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It’s super easy to position yourself where a mob isn’t going to flee, plus that snare is a 6 second cast for 6 ticks of snare, pretty shitty. Plus most likely your mob will already be rooted...Honestly of the clickies I’d rather have fear undead and animal. Allowing you a quick cast interrupt of these species. Being able to interrupt a CH or nasty spell is a better utility than that shitty snare(think soloing seb crypt) or HS(is drusella flagged undead?)
The snare is amazing and saved my life more time then I can remember camping high end named with those zero room to fight dungeons.

And when it changes to stack with root its magical. You don't realize how important snare is until you don't have it.
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Old 02-24-2020, 07:39 PM
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It’s super easy to position yourself where a mob isn’t going to flee, plus that snare is a 6 second cast for 6 ticks of snare, pretty shitty. Plus most likely your mob will already be rooted...Honestly of the clickies I’d rather have fear undead and animal. Allowing you a quick cast interrupt of these species. Being able to interrupt a CH or nasty spell is a better utility than that shitty snare(think soloing seb crypt) or HS(is drusella flagged undead?)
Ya, if all you wanted to do with your shaman is farm seb crypt, CT would prolly be a better religion to pick. It's a non sequitur though, because ogres can't pick CT as a god.

And if you have snare it can often be advantageous to keep mobs a place where they might flee and either let root break or not root them at all. You let them run and then hamless drool while snared at low life. In a way it's like starting the fight with all your enemies immediately losing 10% o their life if used correctly.

If you do want to talk purely about long term "end game", snare will eventually stack with root giving you a buffer to re-root dangerous melee mobs who otherwise would get to tear you up before you could reroot them.
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Old 02-25-2020, 04:47 AM
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It’s super easy to position yourself where a mob isn’t going to flee, plus that snare is a 6 second cast for 6 ticks of snare, pretty shitty. Plus most likely your mob will already be rooted...Honestly of the clickies I’d rather have fear undead and animal. Allowing you a quick cast interrupt of these species. Being able to interrupt a CH or nasty spell is a better utility than that shitty snare(think soloing seb crypt) or HS(is drusella flagged undead?)
I think 6 ticks would be pretty good and make it worth it but on blue anyway, it's half that or was when I used it.
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