Ruby BP /List Camp not being cleared.

[Rhambuk]

so someone joins the list at spot 9 and by the time they are at 2 the group as devolved into mostly melee and a few casters. no healers no cc. so they just fold? been there the entire time but meaningless, or oh theres a cleric in zone that sees they are struggling wait a little bit and bring in your own group now your #1.

the list system has been picked through over and over I think its pretty well settled on at this point

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Rhambuk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so someone joins the list at spot 9 and by the time they are at 2 the group as devolved into mostly melee and a few casters. no healers no cc. so they just fold? been there the entire time but meaningless, or oh theres a cleric in zone that sees they are struggling wait a little bit and bring in your own group now your #1.

So someone is on a waiting list for an exp group at scryer in uguk, and by the time they get into the group the remaining members are unable to hold the camp down. So they just fold? Nah. Let's just give him free exp for hiding in a corner. Or better yet, let's tell a capable group that shows up and wants to claim scryer that they can't actually have it unless they first powerlevel the people who are there currently but unable to handle the camp on their own for a day or two.

Yeah. That'll be great. Both of those things are totally in keeping with classic mechanics AND the classic experience, right?!

Derp dee doo!!!

[Natewest1987]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So someone is on a waiting list for an exp group at scryer in uguk, and by the time they get into the group the remaining members are unable to hold the camp down. So they just fold? Nah. Let's just give him free exp for hiding in a corner. Or better yet, let's tell a capable group that shows up and wants to claim scryer that they can't actually have it unless they first powerlevel the people who are there currently but unable to handle the camp on their own for a day or two.

Yeah. That'll be great. Both of those things are totally in keeping with classic mechanics AND the classic experience, right?!

Derp dee doo!!!

Beyond “classic” it’s literally not how any game is played. It’s a wacky system.

[Atennu]

Originally Posted by Rhambuk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so someone joins the list at spot 9 and by the time they are at 2 the group as devolved into mostly melee and a few casters. no healers no cc. so they just fold? been there the entire time but meaningless, or oh theres a cleric in zone that sees they are struggling wait a little bit and bring in your own group now your #1.

the list system has been picked through over and over I think its pretty well settled on at this point

The /list should not be flooded with people who cannot hold the camp then. Per Rogean, these camps will NEVER be empty. Every combination of classes can duo this camp. At 35? Probably going to be pretty tough. I can't get behind the idea that allowing low levels to flood a camp and hold their spot because they were there deserve an item they would not be able to obtain in a small to full group.

[tommydgun]

Do you all not get tired of wasting your breath (or keystrokes)? Apparently not. How many more of the exact same thread must be made before you realize nothing is going to change until these items are removed from the game anyway very soon?

[Smellybuttface]

Originally Posted by tommydgun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do you all not get tired of wasting your breath (or keystrokes)? Apparently not. How many more of the exact same thread must be made before you realize nothing is going to change until these items are removed from the game anyway very soon?

Still a pretty long while till these/lists go away, and they’ll only be replaced by NEW /lists when Kunark comes out, so the issues aren’t going to be suddenly irrelevant.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Smellybuttface [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Still a pretty long while till these/lists go away, and they’ll only be replaced by NEW /lists when Kunark comes out, so the issues aren’t going to be suddenly irrelevant.

What items we be /list for Kunark? I thought it was just for the classic legacy items

[Smellybuttface]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What items we be /list for Kunark? I thought it was just for the classic legacy items

You might be right about that; I was assuming since people seemed fairly sure of it in this thread: https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=349575

Though it does seem significantly harder to implement in Kunark. Usually it takes a group to kill the Myconid King, would be really hard for the majority to do that solo. Some folks were thinking possibly Circlet of Shadows and Locket of Escape.

I checked the List Wiki and didn’t see anything specifically mentioning only Classic zones, but rather just “legacy” items: https://wiki.project1999.com/List_Co...Flist_apply_to

“It only applies to a very few, highly contested, NPCs, which drop "legacy" items (ie. items which will soon be removed from the game).”

The only mention of “Classic” is in reference to the overall classic identity of the whole game, as opposed to actual “classic” zones.

Seems like it might just be a wait and see sort of thing. But I haven’t found anything in the Wiki or the List thread specifically ruling out Kunark/Velious.

[Natewest1987]

Originally Posted by Rhambuk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so someone joins the list at spot 9 and by the time they are at 2 the group as devolved into mostly melee and a few casters. no healers no cc. so they just fold? been there the entire time but meaningless, or oh theres a cleric in zone that sees they are struggling wait a little bit and bring in your own group now your #1.

the list system has been picked through over and over I think its pretty well settled on at this point

This is actually kind of a stupid argument because obviously that is the way it works in any other circumstance, and you know damn well that if you were that cleric you’d be praying they ate it.