Witchcraft! Do you believe in it?

[Teppler]

Originally Posted by Hoppkins_Wytchfinder [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You have tutored people on the occult? Qualified to lead discussions on the occult?

What just happened..

Feel free to test me.

Shamanism is high voltage. It's a series of techniques that tugs on incredible forces that are behind the veil.

Consider this. I've probably done this rant somewhere here before but, string theory says that reality is made up of tons of intersecting strings that make up reality. Most are not perceivable to the human mind but they are there none the less. There's a whole world of things happening around you every moment, tugging on you, that you are unaware of. Advanced occult meditation teaches one how to deal with these forces and perhaps one day manipulate them.

Shamans main technique is the power of the trance. They utilize all sorts of techniques to induce a state where they are in a trance and they can gain information from there. They utilize repetitive singing, dance, other movements, drugs, rituals and my favorite, intense breathing exercises which I'm one of the best at. Spinal bhastrika is a great breathing/trance technique.

[Asteria]

Originally Posted by Teppler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Feel free to test me.

Shamanism is high voltage. It's a series of techniques that tugs on incredible forces that are behind the veil.

Consider this. I've probably done this rant somewhere here before but, string theory says that reality is made up of tons of intersecting strings that make up reality. Most are not perceivable to the human mind but they are there none the less. There's a whole world of things happening around you every moment, tugging on you, that you are unaware of. Advanced occult meditation teaches one how to deal with these forces and perhaps one day manipulate them.

Shamans main technique is the power of the trance. They utilize all sorts of techniques to induce a state where they are in a trance and they can gain information from there. They utilize repetitive singing, dance, other movements, drugs, rituals and my favorite, intense breathing exercises which I'm one of the best at. Spinal bhastrika is a great breathing/trance technique.

Sound Dangerous!!

What the heck?? Go to church and meet normal people [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.][You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

STOP the Tomfoolery before it is too late!

[Teppler]

Originally Posted by Asteria [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sound Dangerous!!

What the heck?? Go to church and meet normal people [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.][You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

STOP the Tomfoolery before it is too late!

I'm loyal to Jesus too.

[choppedandglued]

Originally Posted by Teppler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Feel free to test me.

Shamanism is high voltage. It's a series of techniques that tugs on incredible forces that are behind the veil.

Consider this. I've probably done this rant somewhere here before but, string theory says that reality is made up of tons of intersecting strings that make up reality. Most are not perceivable to the human mind but they are there none the less. There's a whole world of things happening around you every moment, tugging on you, that you are unaware of. Advanced occult meditation teaches one how to deal with these forces and perhaps one day manipulate them.

Shamans main technique is the power of the trance. They utilize all sorts of techniques to induce a state where they are in a trance and they can gain information from there. They utilize repetitive singing, dance, other movements, drugs, rituals and my favorite, intense breathing exercises which I'm one of the best at. Spinal bhastrika is a great breathing/trance technique.

There's always the guy that is offering 1 million dollars to anybody that can prove anything supernatural exists under a scientifically measured environment. I'm pretty sure if these shamans could do anything special they would of had one prove his magic and their whole village would be rich. Even with the rampant number of cameras on cell phones not a single event showing supernatural powers like you suggest exists.

[Vormotus]

Originally Posted by choppedandglued [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's always the guy that is offering 1 million dollars to anybody that can prove anything supernatural exists under a scientifically measured environment. I'm pretty sure if these shamans could do anything special they would of had one prove his magic and their whole village would be rich. Even with the rampant number of cameras on cell phones not a single event showing supernatural powers like you suggest exists.

The Amazing Randi is the BESTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT OF THE BESTTTTTTTTTT!!![You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.][You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.][You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]


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There is a documentary about his life, and was a bit shocked to find out his partner is a Venezuelan hahaha.

Docu is called: AN HONEST LIAR https://youtu.be/s9ZWaS_FjNU

All of my countrymen show up in the most weird places of the world.

I dont think he has the 1 million dollar offer still up, but man, debunking stuff is amazing for a living.

He has so many good stories!

Again for me all Venezuelan Magic is just part of a cultural baggage/heritage I enjoy showing around, due to how bloody yet visually impacting it is, regardless of how "real" it is. the blood was very real though, can verify it , the magical aspect is up to the performer and the recipient.

Oh man, the Amazing Randi is so good, he really has some amazing insights into how the human mind works.

Here is an old Ted Talk

https://youtu.be/c0Z7KeNCi7g

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[choppedandglued]

Originally Posted by Vormotus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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There is a documentary about his life, and was a bit shocked to find out his partner is a Venezuelan hahaha.

Docu is called: AN HONEST LIAR https://youtu.be/s9ZWaS_FjNU

All of my countrymen show up in the most weird places of the world.

I dont think he has the 1 million dollar offer still up, but man, debunking stuff is amazing for a living.

He has so many good stories!

Again for me all Venezuelan Magic is just part of a cultural baggage/heritage I enjoy showing around, due to how bloody yet visually impacting it is, regardless of how "real" it is. the blood was very real though, can verify it , the magical aspect is up to the performer and the recipient.

Oh man, the Amazing Randi is so good, he really has some amazing insights into how the human mind works.

Here is an old Ted Talk

https://youtu.be/c0Z7KeNCi7g

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The point really is that the things you were talking about, the supernatural stuff, has had its chance to be proven by now. It hasn't, what's the excuse?

[Vormotus]

Originally Posted by choppedandglued [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The point really is that the things you were talking about, the supernatural stuff, has had its chance to be proven by now. It hasn't, what's the excuse?

The Validity of the Supernatural is not the topic I am discussing, but you are welcome to it!

I come from a culture that does not bother with proofs or truths, certainties or reality, we all live in a constant flux of truth and tangibility.

And yet I know what you mean though that is not what I am discussing.

What happens today is not what will happen tomorrow, there are no certainties.

It is very hard to think what lies in front of you is real, if at all, only because tomorrow it will not exist.

I always liked the concept the natives from Australia give to reality, The Dreamtime.

Latinamerica is like that.

I can understand "Magic" and "Witchcraft" is as real as <insert whatever you think its imaginary> , so I honestly just like to talk about it like ... Art?

Personally I love Randi and debunking people that believe these things are real, for Venezuelans these rituals are cultural and obviously it is dangerous territory when Real Medicine is left to the side for "magic", but again, that is not what I want to show here.

Love showing it to others, even if they do not believe in it, because I find it absolutely delightful how people react, outsiders and insiders.

Personally I only believe in the fact people believe what they see is real, which leaves me apart and detached from it.

I am not talking about people doing magical rituals with stones or trees, but about the act of self-mortification so evident in our local rites, the music, the smoke, the types of drugs, the dancing.

There is something amazing in the ritual act some of these performers, under strong hallucinogenics, do to their bodies and the energy you can feel when everybody begins to let loose under the influence of the Stage Theatrics of the whole ritual.

Imagine a Psychological Experiment on a Mass Scale. A Cultural Performing Arts, a visual debauchery of the senses.

There is nothing there but what you want to pour on it, and it is also a longing.

Visually it is amazing, the sound is sublime, tribal.

Here you can see what I mean > Venezuelan Drums https://youtu.be/Q3ZVgldwHOU


And more Venezuelan Drums! Love it! > https://youtu.be/hbtQmhnSxl4


Again, Art, local Venezuela Art and Music, which can not be separated from its "magical" aspect. It is something hard to explain to others, so all I can do is show it around [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

in Venezuela the line between reality and fantasy is so blurred people live in an altered reality state, which is fascinating to me as a psychologist.

Points of validity or reason, though being important overall, are not the focus on the deep sociological aspects that surround these rituals, it is like trying to point at Mickey Mouse and insulting it , like the famous "Enemy Mine" scene [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is like growing up knowing Santa is not real, yet enjoying Xmas for the chance to be with loved ones or as an excuse to be charitative or hang out with friends and have dinner, even if the whole mythology behind it is as fake as a 3 Dollar bill and elves do not exist and no white fat guy travels from the North Pole to bring gifts to good children.

I mean, everyone knows it is not real, hope the analogy conveys what I mean. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And love showing it around ... the more blood, the better, its fantastic! For me when people begin to pour hot candle wax all over their bodies and spasm is like the climax of the whole show.

If just one person discovers about it from this thread, my work is done, which is again, just to show some interesting local aspects of my country to others.

Reality is another topic, delusions a different reality altogether.

Here let me finish with something the Amazing Randi once said:
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So open you rmind to it, just not too much, and see it as performing arts.

We do not have geishas or danish tongue singers or russian squat dancers, we have guys cutting themselves open praying to local nature spirits while under the influence of strong drugs.

And for me that is ... Sublime. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Big hug to you my friend! Remain Skeptical! Everybody is always selling something, even if hidden with the truth.

Yay!

[choppedandglued]

Originally Posted by Vormotus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The Validity of the Supernatural is not the topic I am discussing, but you are welcome to it!

I come from a culture that does not bother with proofs or truths, certainties or reality, we all live in a constant flux of truth and tangibility.
wtf were u born as mogley from the jungle book
And yet I know what you mean though that is not what I am discussing.
then why the fuck u finna write my ass a book?
What happens today is not what will happen tomorrow, there are no certainties.
no shit bruce lee einstein
It is very hard to think what lies in front of you is real, if at all, only because tomorrow it will not exist.
is what i tell my mom so I don't have to get a job
I always liked the concept the natives from Australia give to reality, The Dreamtime.
is this motherfucker really just gonna make a new paragraph with one sentence in it and say random shit?
Latinamerica is like that.
YEP
I can understand "Magic" and "Witchcraft" is as real as <insert whatever you think its imaginary> , so I honestly just like to talk about it like ... Art?
on a completely new subject now that I spent an entire sentence covering witchcraft in latin america
Personally I love Randi and debunking people that believe these things are real, for Venezuelans these rituals are cultural and obviously it is dangerous territory when Real Medicine is left to the side for "magic", but again, that is not what I want to show here.
you really love randy huh
Love showing it to others, even if they do not believe in it, because I find it absolutely delightful how people react, outsiders and insiders.
...
Personally I only believe in the fact people believe what they see is real, which leaves me apart and detached from it.
are you on adderal?
I am not talking about people doing magical rituals with stones or trees, but about the act of self-mortification so evident in our local rites, the music, the smoke, the types of drugs, the dancing.
or more than just addy?
There is something amazing in the ritual act some of these performers, under strong hallucinogenics, do to their bodies and the energy you can feel when everybody begins to let loose under the influence of the Stage Theatrics of the whole ritual.
*due to their bodies
Imagine a Psychological Experiment on a Mass Scale. A Cultural Performing Arts, a visual debauchery of the senses.
later that month a man who sneaked into a nursing home was caught giving residents large amounts of LSD, and then proclaiming himself to be some form of wind god.
There is nothing there but what you want to pour on it, and it is also a longing.
your face is melting dude
Visually it is amazing, the sound is sublime, tribal.
i forgot wtf you where talking about
Here you can see what I mean > Venezuelan Drums https://youtu.be/Q3ZVgldwHOU
pretty colors bro

And more Venezuelan Drums! Love it! > https://youtu.be/hbtQmhnSxl4
its cool bro I like turtles

Again, Art, local Venezuela Art and Music, which can not be separated from its "magical" aspect. It is something hard to explain to others, so all I can do is show it around [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
I find theories on time and space travel more interesting
in Venezuela the line between reality and fantasy is so blurred people live in an altered reality state, which is fascinating to me as a psychologist.
shade tree time travelers

Points of validity or reason, though being important overall, are not the focus on the deep sociological aspects that surround these rituals, it is like trying to point at Mickey Mouse and insulting it , like the famous "Enemy Mine" scene [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
all hell naaw he hit me with the Mickey Mouse defense
It is like growing up knowing Santa is not real, yet enjoying Xmas for the chance to be with loved ones or as an excuse to be charitative or hang out with friends and have dinner, even if the whole mythology behind it is as fake as a 3 Dollar bill and elves do not exist and no white fat guy travels from the North Pole to bring gifts to good children.
I been saying santa was black for ages, I mean you think a white guy could break into all those houses?
I mean, everyone knows it is not real, hope the analogy conveys what I mean. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
starting to sweat about santa bud? he's gonna getcha!
And love showing it around ... the more blood, the better, its fantastic! For me when people begin to pour hot candle wax all over their bodies and spasm is like the climax of the whole show.
oh man this just went a whole new direction... can't say im surprised.
If just one person discovers about it from this thread, my work is done, which is again, just to show some interesting local aspects of my country to others.
you are a true blessing to man kind
Reality is another topic, delusions a different reality altogether.
yah lets stick here, madness
Here let me finish with something the Amazing Randi once said:
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now hes the fucking amazing randi
So open you rmind to it, just not too much, and see it as performing arts.
wow
We do not have geishas or danish tongue singers or russian squat dancers, we have guys cutting themselves open praying to local nature spirits while under the influence of strong drugs.
im not opposed to that, I just said it's not accepted to have any value opposed to placebo effects and culture.
And for me that is ... Sublime. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
man you do a lot of drugs don't you
Big hug to you my friend! Remain Skeptical! Everybody is always selling something, even if hidden with the truth.
first you started out like a drunk guy at the bar trying to give advice, and totally went all Confucius at the end, not bad.
Yay!
That was like homework or something

[Tethler]

Originally Posted by Teppler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Feel free to test me.

Shamanism is high voltage. It's a series of techniques that tugs on incredible forces that are behind the veil.

Consider this. I've probably done this rant somewhere here before but, string theory says that reality is made up of tons of intersecting strings that make up reality. Most are not perceivable to the human mind but they are there none the less. There's a whole world of things happening around you every moment, tugging on you, that you are unaware of. Advanced occult meditation teaches one how to deal with these forces and perhaps one day manipulate them.

Shamans main technique is the power of the trance. They utilize all sorts of techniques to induce a state where they are in a trance and they can gain information from there. They utilize repetitive singing, dance, other movements, drugs, rituals and my favorite, intense breathing exercises which I'm one of the best at. Spinal bhastrika is a great breathing/trance technique.

This is true immersion, folks. Teppler camped Seb crypt for so many hours he thinks he became a real-life shaman.