Enchanter charm isn't classic, we all know this

[Hazek]

Originally Posted by ArunaGreen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If shit like bard aoe'n is nerfed then there is no reason whatsoever that charm shouldn't be nerfed. Chanters being able to solo and duo camps meant for full or near full groups is absurd. Chanters doing half a raids DPS with a single pet is retarded. The spell is in BLATANT need of a nerf. You should not be able to charm a dar ghoul or a protector imp or any other absurdly high powered pet.

Look I want classic Everquest not World of Warcraft. Cause if they nerf that then what's next, making it so bards can only hit 4 mobs? Lol. No thanks. Keep it classic.

[ArunaGreen]

Originally Posted by Hazek [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Look I want classic Everquest not World of Warcraft. Cause if they nerf that then what's next, making it so bards can only hit 4 mobs? Lol. No thanks. Keep it classic.

So making enchanters less powerful than an entire high end max level group combined is making the game into WoW? You're a fucking retard lol. Also, bards can currently only hit 4 mobs and that's honestly how it should remain. Being able to solo an entire zone is fucking stupid.

[bubur]

Originally Posted by ArunaGreen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're a fucking retard lol.

here's where you lose me.

chanter nerfs? fine. present the evidence and post it. i also dont remember charm being widely used in classic. i have my opinions about why that is, which i posted 40-somethin pages ago and no one cares what i think

but flailing around and trying to bully people into your perspective before you do any actual research or lift a finger to prove your point? naw gtfo

[Hazek]

Originally Posted by ArunaGreen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So making enchanters less powerful than an entire high end max level group combined is making the game into WoW? You're a fucking retard lol.

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Also, bards can currently only hit 4 mobs and that's honestly how it should remain. Being able to solo an entire zone is fucking stupid.

Charm breaking early is stupid and it should remain as it is.

Big swarms were high risk that took lots of skill and time to complete. One mistake, including lag, was death. It was also done in obscure zones like FV and Burning Woods with plenty of other places to level (and extra mobs that don't get pulled).

[ArunaGreen]

Originally Posted by Hazek [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Big swarms were high risk that took lots of skill and time to complete. One mistake, including lag, was death. It was also done in obscure zones like FV and Burning Woods with plenty of other places to level (and extra mobs that don't get pulled).

Hard to tell if you're joking honestly. Bard swarming is not skill intensive at all. You literally run around in a fucking circle while a song auto plays. How is that high risk? Lol...

[Hazek]

Originally Posted by ArunaGreen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hard to tell if you're joking honestly. Bard swarming is not skill intensive at all. You literally run around in a fucking circle while a song auto plays. How is that high risk? Lol...

Sometimes i'm joking. Sometimes i'm not. Need high INT and WIS to tell the difference.

Swarm kiting is not "running around in flipper circle while a song plays."

Coming from someone who actually did it.

Swarming is spending lots of time to run through the entire zone single pulling mobs without agroing casters or getting stunned and dying from your train, thus losing even more time from having to zone it or run back and do it again. Then its learning how to click off selos and strafe kite while twisting 3 dots and switching instruments and circling with the perfect degree to be at the right distance without getting too close a single time and getting one shot, which is always an inch away. Then its doing that consistently for 30 minutes or more without a mistake. Stop being so silly and overly dramatic.

Also buff enchanters.

[Hazek]

I almost wanna reinstall and swarm anyway even with the 4 mob limit. u mad

[ArunaGreen]

Originally Posted by Hazek [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sometimes i'm joking. Sometimes i'm not. Need high INT and WIS to tell the difference.

Swarm kiting is not "running around in flipper circle while a song plays."

Coming from someone who actually did it.

I'm literally the reason the mechanic was nerfed on blue so I kinda know what I'm talking about. AOE Kiting on a bard is about as difficult as tying your shoes while chewing bubble gum.

Originally Posted by Hazek [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Swarming is spending lots of time to run through the entire zone single pulling mobs without agroing casters or getting stunned and dying from your train, thus losing even more time from having to zone it or run back and do it again. Then its learning how to click off selos and strafe kite while twisting 3 dots and switching instruments and circling with the perfect degree to be at the right distance without getting too close a single time and getting one shot. Then its doing that consistently for 30 minutes or more without a mistake. Stop being so silly and overly dramatic.

Also buff enchanters.

If you get stunned by a mob when you have selo's and multiple long range pulling tools, you're being a complete moron. Avoiding casters is a joke as most of the zones you do this in don't even have casters in the area that it's done. Learning how to click off a buff...good lord. Also, who taught you to twist 3 dots? Lol. You literally just autoplay the level 18 dot as it has the longest range and keeps you in complete safety and with horn it does heavy damage. I think out of 1,000 pulls I can count all my deaths with a single hand. If you think AOE Kiting takes skill, odds are you have a double digit IQ and find most things in life to be difficult.

[Hazek]

Originally Posted by ArunaGreen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm literally the reason the mechanic was nerfed on blue so I kinda know what I'm talking about. AOE Kiting on a bard is about as difficult as tying your shoes while chewing bubble gum.



If you get stunned by a mob when you have selo's and multiple long range pulling tools, you're being a complete moron. Avoiding casters is a joke as most of the zones you do this in don't even have casters in the area that it's done. Learning how to click off a buff...good lord. Also, who taught you to twist 3 dots? Lol. You literally just autoplay the level 18 dot as it has the longest range and keeps you in complete safety and with horn it does heavy damage. I think out of 1,000 pulls I can count all my deaths with a single hand. If you think AOE Kiting takes skill, odds are you have a double digit IQ and find most things in life to be difficult.

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The fact that you said you "kited" with a single dot proves you never did it in Burning Woods or any high level zone. And any bard who's actually done it knows this.

So yeah of course "swarming" is easy when its level 1 bats.

But for me its not like it was korean level difficulty but its not how you're describing it either.