Of Race and Religion

[Cen]

Originally Posted by Vizax_Xaziv [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Therein lies the question! Are they truly a God, if they're able to be killed?

Gods aren't always immortal in every belief system ;D

[Vizax_Xaziv]

Originally Posted by Cen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gods aren't always immortal in every belief system ;D

Well here in America they are, pal! Haven't you heard? Trumps doctors said he's in PERFECT health!!!

[Hazek]

Agnostics are ignorant cowards who are too afraid to make up their mind. Also there is no god but God. But since you have to choose in game then Quellious cause good philosophy.

"Followers of Quellious the Tranquil seek peace. They are not strict pacifists, though, and will fight to defend themselves and their loved ones. The peace they seek is an inner one. They wish to know all there is to know about themselves and the world around them. They thirst for knowledge of their true selves and strive to help others attain enlightenment. It is through the sharing of this knowledge that they believe universal peace can be obtained. If every creature fully understood itself and its neighbors there would be no need for conflict and war. Followers of Quellious often follow a nomadic lifestyle, constantly seeking what there is to know and hoping to find themselves along the way."

But peace through knowledge is nonsense cause wicked people are gunna cause problems regardless unless they're stopped by force, God willing.

[Wwen42]

Originally Posted by Clinicus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"Dude, you literally killed a god. You're wearing their loot!"

Agnostic: "Hmmmmm, I still don't know"

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

[El-Hefe]

Originally Posted by Clinicus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"Dude, you literally killed a god. You're wearing their loot!"

Agnostic: "Hmmmmm, I still don't know"

Well... If you can kill something then logically it’s not worth worshipping or acknowledging it’s “Godhood”.

[Vormotus]

Originally Posted by jacob54311 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I always thought the agnostic option was pretty ridiculous in a world where magic is a veritably real thing.

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In a sense it is like that but taken with a fantasy setting and we end up with stuff like Pratchett envisioned ...

Where the gods went to break the windows of the only known agnostic of Discworld just to spite him hehe 8)

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So here being agnostic is more like a MEH dont care attitude regarding divine beings more than atheistic beliefs.

EQ lore is quite complex, when you mix the Ethernere in it.

This is the copy paste of Vhalen on the Ethernere>

Death is but a doorway in this universe just as it is in many others. Ethernere is in a sense, an anteroom or vestibule to the realms of the afterlife. Norrathian, Trorsmangling, Cordanian, etc, all souls must pass through this dimension before going on or in some cases, returning. As with most dimensions, the gods have no influence here.[/p] [p]In the past, I have shared information about the little known realm of Ethernere. Here in this limbo, billions of souls can be found waiting to move onward. But there are forces native to Ethernere that have a life all their own, forces that may have existed or may have sprung from the lives that pass through here. These forces have come to claim the universal vestibule as theirs. Chief among these entities is the Harrowing Horde, the guardians of Deathtoll Bell Tower. These forces manage the existence around them and often have created laws that bind souls to the Ethernere for longer than any should be. We Norrathians will all see Ethernere in our time, but will we ever escape it? Most do, but some are held back by the forces of Ethernere.[/p] [p]Are the native forces of Ethernere the only obstruction that may keep a soul from passing on? No. There are powerful entities that can sometimes breach Ethernere and exist for long periods of time, unnoticed by the Harrowing Horde. These invaders come to the gray fields of Ethernere in search of notable individuals whose souls await their afterlife. Here is where such souls can be subjugated far more easily than within the realms of that afterlife.[/p] [p]The subjugation of souls in Ethernere can be performed in numerous ways. The reasons for such captivity vary. The Harrowing Horde has stopped such actions where souls have been used as such things as vaults of knowledge, spiritual batteries and in some cases simply to spite the soul from a glorious afterlife. There are many reasons for soul subjugation and not even the Harrowing Horde has seen them all. Pray to your gods that your time in Ethernere is brief and without complications.

So believing or not does not deter you from an Afterlife in Norrath, so agnostics perhaps do not care for an specific afterlife offered by their racial god for example,

[Cen]

There is a tier of religions where if you can worship it, its probably the best. Here is the way it works

Veeshan >Solusek >Bristlebane = Rallos = Brell = Agnostic > Tunare = Innoruuk > Other Good > Other Evil


For the most part, Veeshan and Solusek are like Agnostic but with benefits. Bristlebane is like Agnostic but not with a whole lot of benefits. Rallos is close to agnostic but slightly more evil usually has cool armor. Tunare and Inny get many great items. Brell/Veeshan/Rallos/Tunare give special access to non KOS in some places.


It looks a little goofy to tier it that way, but only bards can worship Veeshan, and theres no downsides to doing so, and only benefits, so it sits on top. Solusek is the same sort of deal for Wizards. From there, it works out that way

[Vormotus]

Originally Posted by Cen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Veeshan >Solusek >Bristlebane = Rallos = Brell = Agnostic > Tunare = Innoruuk > Other Good > Other Evil

I really really like this small scale.

Matches some of my own beliefs on the issue of religion in Norrath in P99.

Very nice!
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[Cen]

Originally Posted by Mankong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hello. I’m kind of curious about religion, the matter of such being which race’s religion is best for them? Besides Agnosticism. For example, is Quellious better for an Erudite Paladin to worship than Prexus faction and item wise, or is it the other way around? Innoruuk or Bertoxxulous for a Human Cleric when it comes to evil worship? How about Rallos Zek for the odd warrior?

Oh, let me also address your actual questions directly:

Erudite Paladin - Prexus has the best itemization and an easier epic. Quellious gets pretty much nothing. Prexus gets an awesome shield. Paladins can never be Agnostic.

Human Cleric of Innoruuk is actually one of P99's power combos. Later on in the timeline they get tons of clicky items that are powerful, including a snare necklace, a fear mask, and a helmet that grants deadeye. Bertox gets some of this but instead of snare neck its a disease cloud neck, which is a little crappier for a cleric.

Warriors of Rallos Zek, except for ogres and trolls, get a neat armor set. Also, anyone in the game who worships Rallos Zek starts dubious (non KOS) to velious giants. Minor bonus there. Every warrior in the game can worship Rallos Zek, except for Iksar who must always worship Cazic-Thule no matter what, and Dwarves, since RZ is considered their arch enemy.

[Arkainium]

Originally Posted by Cen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Erudite Paladin - Prexus has the best itemization and an easier epic. Quellious gets pretty much nothing. Prexus gets an awesome shield. Paladins can never be Agnostic.

How does following Prexus make paladin epic easier? Shield of Stalwart Seas does not have a deity requirement; all erudite paladins can equip it. AFAIK there are no Prexus-only items for erudite paladins.