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Old 06-01-2011, 02:24 PM
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Furthermore, my "crazy FTE" situation is exactly what happened for months with Noble Dojorn, of which was a raid target with a known spawn time down to the second. How many times were the GMs petitioned during that timeframe between Divinity, IB, and DA? Anecdotal or not this is not a fallacy based on a hypothetical, this is historically accurate for Project 1999.
Alternatively one dev could take 5 minutes to write a script for every raid mob to yell out the name on who engaged it first. Bam, FTE argument solved for every raid for all eternity. These are not hard problems to solve, EQ is a simple game.
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Old 06-01-2011, 02:27 PM
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Alternatively one dev could take 5 minutes to write a script for every raid mob to yell out the name on who engaged it first. Bam, FTE argument solved for every raid for all eternity. These are not hard problems to solve, EQ is a simple game.
I think Rogean took a look at this because that was suggested at one point as a way to remove all doubts about FTE so no GMs would have to be called even in the current raid scene, but that doesn't set apart "skill" from pre-mobilizing/poopsocking, classic or not, which is something I think (not verified) that Skope had an additional issue with over the current raiding scene. I may be wrong on that but that's the impression I got.
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Old 06-01-2011, 02:32 PM
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That was suggested at one point as a way to remove all doubts about FTE so no GMs would have to be called even in the current raid scene, but that doesn't set apart "skill" from pre-mobilizing/poopsocking, classic or not.
No, but it does address the issue of keeping FTE and clusterfuck(s). As i said before, in classic you still had tiered guilds -- in fact, you have them here. Poopsock all you want, if you don't engage first it's not yours in an FTE setting. Poopsock advantages go down the toilet. Whoever engaged it first gets the loot after it dies. Training, KSing, etc; all old rules would still apply. That's just 1 alternative. Of course, this may cause some issues with some guilds not willing to give up a pop and KSing. I can certainly see that happening.

Shiftin, i'm just not going to propose anything over these forums. You can chat with me about it, hell i'll sign onto irc and do it that way. But p99 forums have a tendency to litter serious discussion with stupidity.

Just to add that KSing a raid mob has happened here before. The notion that it'll become worse depends on how the rules are set.
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Old 06-01-2011, 02:50 PM
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But p99 forums have a tendency to litter serious discussion with stupidity.
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Old 06-01-2011, 02:28 PM
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Alternatively one dev could take 5 minutes to write a script for every raid mob to yell out the name on who engaged it first.
This is no more classic than a variance...

I don't mean to troll, I'm just making a point.
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Old 06-01-2011, 02:37 PM
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This is no more classic than a variance...

I don't mean to troll, I'm just making a point.
and obviously he prefers this non-classic solution to the current, and probably your prefered non-classic solution.

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Old 06-01-2011, 02:39 PM
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(if you'd read anything, the summary of Troy's posts is to change it to classic, for his benefit)


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Old 06-01-2011, 02:44 PM
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(if you'd read anything, the summary of Troy's posts is to change it to classic, for his benefit)


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This came out a tad snottier than I intended. It was more my taking Asher's trollbait than a slam on you, if that changes anything.
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Old 06-01-2011, 02:46 PM
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(if you'd read anything, the summary of Troy's posts is to change it to classic, for his benefit)


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And the summary of TR/Ascension posts is to keep it non-classic for their benefit. Your point? Of course no one is going to argue for rules that make things more challenging for them, that is a given. That's why we use facts to make objective arguments.
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Old 06-01-2011, 02:48 PM
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Hah! Beat you to the apology!

I'm not arguing to keep it as it is, fior my guild or anyone elses'. I believe human beings en mass, particularly gamer human beings en masse, would take a chisel and hammer to your cranium if they thought they'd find an upgrade nestled in your still-living brain.
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