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Old 11-25-2019, 09:14 PM
Wallicker Wallicker is offline
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And at lvl 11 you get the most powerful faction boost in the game, song adds +600 faction until you zone, camp, LD, die OR use the song on a new mob that’s on a different faction I can vendor in oggok as a woodelf with it without sneaking
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Old 11-25-2019, 09:43 PM
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As a bard go veeshan. Your the only class in the game who can and its just like being agnostic but cooler? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But yeah bards only need tank stats.
Also bards have insane dps and group healing but people don't realize it.
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Old 11-25-2019, 11:16 PM
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Start in Kelethin, farm mobs till lvl 4 or 5, especially the bee's and skellies. Save bone chips and vendor the venom sacs (3g each) and rusty weapons until you can buy bags. Bone chip quest in Felwithe is great exp https://wiki.project1999.com/Bone_Chips_Felwithe. And bag vendors are usually in the class huts. Bags are 5g each. Buy your songs especially the dot and heal, and a lute and drum. Drum enhances selos and lute enhances heal when you have it equipped. But use a weapon to melee, and instrument during downtime. Hold down left mouse over your primary weapon slot and drag it on your hotbar. Do the same for the secondary slot and some inventory slots. That's so you can switch instruments. Its a bit tricky but you'll get faster with practice, and definitely worth. The heal song is amazing with a lute. At level 5 (maybe 4), head to orc hill and kill any blues you can, or group. Around level 6 try to kill stuff in CB or as soon as possible because of the ZEM bonus (zone experience modifier). It can be rough until you get your heal and learn to twist though. But after that its good. Try to get a nice weapon soon as you can, splintered club has a good ratio, and "warhammer" (6p), and there's a 15 plat 1hb at the "smithy hut" near warrior guild or whatever, I forget.

Get 8 bags soon as you can and also fill your bank with them and start saving every CB belt you can get, and eventually lego shoulder pads. Stock up your bank until its 100% full, should be around lvl 9 or 10. Then make one trip with all those bags, no food or anything to Kaladim and turn them in. You should be lvl 11 or so after that. Also loot everything you can find in CB and vendor it, including from rotting corpses that other people kill. The lego wrists vendor for 3g, and the small leather can go for up to 8g. It adds up and well worth it, even the cloth pieces. After that just repeat and try and get into groups, starting with wall / TM (taskmaster) then TR (throne room) around lvl 13. In the meantime just kill blues wherever you can.

Learn to twist by just casting another song as soon as one finishes. You should keep up at least 4 songs, your dot, heal, lvl 1 buff and the haste one (Jonathans whatever). Prioritize the heal and Jonathans but remember the rotation. The instrument modifier works by whatever you have equipped when the song ends.

Stats are opinion but I prefer CHA because it reduces song failures and especially helps with lull at later levels. And a failed lull can be a wipe. Sta is nice but overrated. Str isn't bad either since you'll be meleeing. Pick whatever you want. For gear try to get MM (mistmoore) drums eventually and a gypsy lute (also drops in MM). And you can buy banded or bronze if you want usually 1pp per ac. Spending plat on gear is worth it because you'll make alot more plat later and having gear will help you level much easier.

And since there's only 6 action slots (cancer) you're forced to either use that for stopsong macros or double tap and use those slots for instruments (you'll need all 6). I understand and agree with keeping things classic but having only 6 slots (especially since action binds don't work) and having to double tap is beyond stupid so I made a script that allows you to single tap so you can use those slots for instruments. You can get it here with a readme on how to use

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Old 11-25-2019, 11:36 PM
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I understand and agree with keeping things classic but having only 6 slots (especially since action binds don't work) and having to double tap is beyond stupid so I made a script that allows you to single tap so you can use those slots for instruments. You can get it here with a readme on how to use:

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Its not technically "allowed" but its not a hack either. And all it does is make a bards life viable.
How is that classic? Or "not a hack"? Scripting is okay with the staff? It's a dangerous path Hazek.
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Old 11-26-2019, 12:07 AM
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How is that classic? Or "not a hack"? Scripting is okay with the staff? It's a dangerous path Hazek.
I hear you Swish. But there's no good reason to force double tapping. You might as well make it so you have to press it 4 times for each ability or any other irrational number besides once. Its why the first thing ever bard does is create stopsong macros and it something that should have been fixed since the beginning (or let us have a normal UI). But you can't with only 6 slots since you need that to switch instruments unless you want a huge inventory box cluttering your screen, which does nothing to enhance the "classic experience". Not to mention having no room for other macros like pulling, assist, etc. Sometimes limitations can be good for the game but in this case it makes it terrible to play a bard without it. And yes, macros are 100% different than a hack. That's why i've used it in multiple games and never had a problem. Literally never gotten banned. So if they wanna ban specifically for this then that's fine, but I think that would be silly and I already uninstalled anyway because my two accounts were suspended for petty unjust reasons. And the "Iron fist" mentality can be practical but not for everything. Judgement should always be used. So take it or leave it and do what you will. But it sure makes playing a bard much more enjoyable without any negative effects because all it does is let you single tap so you can use those slots for instruments.

Also forgot to mention that stopsong has to be bound to 0
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Old 11-26-2019, 12:49 AM
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I don't keep my inventory open at all....
I have 4 hot bars macroed to Shift W/A/S/D and I swap pages as needed
Page 1 - Main Twist
Page 2 - Pull
Page 3 - Weapon Swaps
Page 4 - Charm setup

I move with WASD, so I just hotkey swap to the page I need when I need it. No inventory, all shortcuts except weapon swapping which I have to do manually.
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Old 11-26-2019, 01:05 AM
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I don't keep my inventory open at all....
I have 4 hot bars macroed to Shift W/A/S/D and I swap pages as needed
Page 1 - Main Twist
Page 2 - Pull
Page 3 - Weapon Swaps
Page 4 - Charm setup

I move with WASD, so I just hotkey swap to the page I need when I need it. No inventory, all shortcuts except weapon swapping which I have to do manually.
Something doesn't add up like not being able to move while you're pressing those hotkeys and i'd like to see a video of you doing this for a few minutes if you could upload one. And all of that just to single tap songs.

A better solution is if the devs just give us a normal UI with enough action slots or make stopsong inherent in the code. Or just allow / use a script.

I remember playing a 50+ bard and twisting + switching instruments + charming + mezzing + meleeing with a normal UI and stopsong and that was so much micro already that it would be impossible with switching pages.
But if you can play a bard to its full potential while doing what you're saying and show us a video of it then i'll sincerely congratulate you.

And even the idea of forcing players to switch pages instead of just giving us extra action slots is silly.
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Old 11-26-2019, 02:33 PM
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And since there's only 6 action slots (cancer) you're forced to either use that for stopsong macros or double tap and use those slots for instruments (you'll need all 6). I understand and agree with keeping things classic but having only 6 slots (especially since action binds don't work) and having to double tap is beyond stupid so I made a script that allows you to single tap so you can use those slots for instruments. You can get it here with a readme on how to use: Its not technically "allowed" but its not a hack either. And all it does is make a bards life viable.
This is 100% against the rules and you will be banned for it if we catch you. Thanks for admitting it though, makes my job easier.
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Old 11-26-2019, 02:49 PM
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This is 100% against the rules and you will be banned for it if we catch you. Thanks for admitting it though, makes my job easier.
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Old 11-26-2019, 02:57 PM
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This is 100% against the rules and you will be banned for it if we catch you. Thanks for admitting it though, makes my job easier.
Yeah and I openly talk about using it for multiple reasons such as:

- Banning people for that would be dumb and petty since all it does is fix a bad mechanic that everyone fixes with macros and shouldn't exist to begin with.
- It would also demonstrate how unreasonable and irrational you are.
- Playing a bard without it is cancer.
- I don't need Everquest in my life and getting banned would be a favor since I only play cause its kinda fun and addicting but would be better off without it.
- I already uninstalled anyway.
- If I really cared then I would just keep using it without mentioning it and nothing would happen since its a macro and not a hack and you would never even know. Just like in all the other games i've used scripts in.

But yea go for it Stalin.
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