/List Server Ruleset Should Consider Tweaks

[nectarprime]

The simple fix is to swallow your pride and just kill the damn thing. It's in your best interest to.

[Grakken]

Originally Posted by nectarprime [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The simple fix is to swallow your pride and just kill the damn thing. It's in your best interest to.

This mentality is the free epic WoW mentality. I dislike it. Its exactly then mentality which makes me never want to play WoW and why I love early EQ.

This feels like raidfinder to me. Who cares there is a healer not healing, a DPS not DPSing. Its their free epic, just farm it for them.

[turbosilk]

[QUOTE=Grakken;3032978]This mentality is the free epic WoW mentality. I dislike it. Its exactly then mentality which makes me never want to play WoW and why I love early EQ.

This feels like raidfinder to me. Who cares there is a healer not healing, a DPS not DPSing. Its their free epic, just farm it for them.[/QUOTE

It's not really any different than killing a raid mob knowing someone with more points will get the drop you want if it drops. You can help kill the mob and advance whoever is in front of you or you can choose not to attend.

[Grakken]

Originally Posted by turbosilk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's not really any different than killing a raid mob knowing someone with more points will get the drop you want if it drops. You can help kill the mob and advance whoever is in front of you or you can choose not to attend.

Its extremely different. One is a random stranger. Another is a guildmate. I'd spend an entire weekend camping an item for a friend. I won't SoW a stranger.

[nectarprime]

Originally Posted by Grakken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its extremely different. One is a random stranger. Another is a guildmate. I'd spend an entire weekend camping an item for a friend. I won't SoW a stranger.

Then you're an asshole. But, we've already established that in the other thread you posted.

[Grakken]

Originally Posted by nectarprime [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Then you're an asshole. But, we've already established that in the other thread you posted.

Why? I'll never understand this entitlement. Absence of charity is not hostility. You are not entitled to my mana, my buffs or my time complete stranger. You are an A-Hole for treating people this way. Do me a favor or you're a jerk. So manipulative.

My mana, my choice.

[nectarprime]

Originally Posted by Grakken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why? I'll never understand this entitlement. Absence of charity is not hostility. You are not entitled to my mana, my buffs or my time complete stranger. You are an A-Hole for treating people this way. Do me a favor or you're a jerk. So manipulative.

My mana, my choice.

I don't understand how this still doesn't make sense to you - by not killing the mob you are increasing the length if time it will take for you to get your item, no matter your position on the list

By helping yourself you also help people in front of you. There is no downside.

[solidious77]

Originally Posted by Grakken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why? I'll never understand this entitlement. Absence of charity is not hostility. You are not entitled to my mana, my buffs or my time complete stranger. You are an A-Hole for treating people this way. Do me a favor or you're a jerk. So manipulative.

My mana, my choice.

Originally Posted by Grakken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its extremely different. One is a random stranger. Another is a guildmate. I'd spend an entire weekend camping an item for a friend. I won't SoW a stranger.

Narcissistic personality disorder — one of several types of personality disorders — is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others.

Pretty sure the issue is not other peoples entitlement; lol. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[turbosilk]

Originally Posted by Grakken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This mentality is the free epic WoW mentality. I dislike it. Its exactly then mentality which makes me never want to play WoW and why I love early EQ.

This feels like raidfinder to me. Who cares there is a healer not healing, a DPS not DPSing. Its their free epic, just farm it for them.

It's not really any different than killing a raid mob knowing someone with more points will get the drop you want if it drops. You can help kill the mob and advance whoever is in front of you or you can choose not to attend.

[311junkie]

It seems silly to me to not require the person in the #1 slot to be able to participate in killing the mob. I think a timer for inactivity of killing the ph or named would be beneficial to reduce entitlement and require said person to be capable to solo and/or bring friends to control the spawn.

If this were really classic could you imagine a situation where you enter a camp and someone sitting there invis tells you: "hey buddy - I was here first, but I can't kill the ph so please do that for me. By the way, I'm also entitled get the first rare drop because i was here first." /afk