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[Grakken]

Originally Posted by bubur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If I was a toy train hobbiest, I may ask a fellow enthusiast to help me move them or obtain a particularly rare one.

I mean... We're talking about emulated eq, its /list system, and manastone ph's, not toy trains or moving labor. The mental gymnastics are getting complicated. If you got there second, you'd only be helping yourself to help the guy who got there first, right?

I see your point as far as the analogy muddys the water ( i think thats one of your points).

But continuing with your example, Id say its closer to him asking a fellow enthusiast - who he has never met - to buy him a rare train.

[Crovax]

Originally Posted by Grakken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I see your point as far as the analogy muddys the water ( i think thats one of your points).

But continuing with your example, Id say its closer to him asking a fellow enthusiast - who he has never met - to buy him a rare train.

That isn't a fair analogy. I never asked you to get me anything. You said you weren't going to help and wanted me to do it solo. I never once said, "You need to help me". I never once said, "Please help me". Nothing remotely close to that.

You keep trying to imply that is the the case but it is an alright lie.

It's more like we are train enthusiast and there is a public event where people are getting a rare train if they show up and get a ticket. For each person who got a ticket. And I got there before you. But because you wanted to be first you threw a tantrum and started screaming at the top of your lungs that you wanted your train first, and then everyone started looking at you like, "Why is this grown adult throwing a tantrum?"

That's the situation. I /listed. I put in the hours and the work. I never once asked you to help me in anyway after you suggested I should solo. I didn't complain in chat. I didn't start crying in the forums.

I didn't start crying to my friends and try to get them to push you off. I think I have been as cordial as possible all things considered.

[Grakken]

Originally Posted by Crovax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That isn't a fair analogy. I never asked you to get me anything. You said you weren't going to help and wanted me to do it solo. I never once said, "You need to help me". I never once said, "Please help me". Nothing remotely close to that.

You keep trying to imply that is the the case but it is an alright lie.

I never meant to imply you did. Most of those references were debating other's point of view of a hypothetical, not your actions. But after re-reading my OP, you're right I did imply with the word "demanding". I should have said "the situation demanded."

I apologize for that misrepresentation. It wasn't my intention. But the core problem of OP still exists. And, I'd like to see some changes to future /lists.

[TheRusty]

Originally Posted by Grakken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I never meant to imply you did. Most of those references were debating other's point of view of a hypothetical, not your actions. But after re-reading my OP, you're right I did imply with the word "demanding". I should have said "the situation demanded."

I apologize for that misrepresentation. It wasn't my intention. But the core problem of OP still exists. And, I'd like to see some changes to future /lists.

The core problem of the OP is that you can't figure out that the PH would die if you grouped with the dude and killed it, thus expediting the odds of both of you getting a manastone at some point.

"BWUR UHR DURR WHY SHOULD I HELP?!" - because you want the camp and that's the best way to get it. You're being a damn self-defeating fool out of what, some sort of weird pride thing? Some Randian Superman fantasy? Get over it, kill the mob, and it'll respawn faster

[Grakken]

Originally Posted by Crovax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

. I think I have been as cordial as possible all things considered.

I agree, and have said as much in other posts and to people talking to me in tells.