Mages are up shit’s creek I guess

[NeilYo]

i love how you complain about research when the actual problem is that its currently impossible to research any pet past 34

[Vizax_Xaziv]

Originally Posted by Obrae [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ah the jealousy, mage have never been the gods of classes and they wont be the one getting 50 the fastest nor in bigger numbers, not sure why the hate around here.

Yea what a joke. That guy's probably playing a Chanter or Necro and calling Mages overwpowered LOL

[Thievery]

I skimmed this thread, but lets put this into some perspective for the mages.

At 34 your nuke does the same damage as a wizard's for 15 more mana cost. And at worst you still have a level 20 pet.

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[keithjinternet]

Originally Posted by Vizax_Xaziv [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Listen, go eat shit Skorge. You're doing this to spite Mage players while feigning some kind of "Classic-purist benevolence."

You've advocated in post after post, lobbying for every Mage NERF, whilst conveniently ignoring every
Classic change that would increase their strength.

In fact lets get you and Dolalin a corner and y'all two can just take turns defecating in each other's mouth!

What did they nerf that should have been in for launch of green as it relates to mages?

[Baler]

Yeah dang those mages who can chain summon pets with cheap reagents bought from a vendor. Enabling them to kill high end content with no risk in classic.

[Bazia]

at first i kinda had beef with mages because they were so specifically abused on blue classic, but at this point cmon at least unbreak their research

[TheRusty]

Originally Posted by Obrae [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ah the jealousy, mage have never been the gods of classes and they wont be the one getting 50 the fastest nor in bigger numbers, not sure why the hate around here.

You picked mage so you could get a head start. Same as people who rolled up druids and necros on day one. It's been 20 years man, we know how this game works. And nobody hates you for this. Do your thing, hell, I rolled an enchanter, who am I to judge on someone for wanting an easy time as a naked caster? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The problem comes up where after taking this head start, you run into an issue where you have a gear dependecy to progress. You need a spell. That spell requires research components - but because there are so few people at the level range to generate those components, and the competition is so high, you have to either tediously grind those components up somehow, or pay someone who has.

And you don't like this. It slows your roll. You knew what you were getting into - it's literally on the server's name - but just the same, you're mad. and you want it rectified. You want a special exception made, just for you, to make a piece of requirement easily accessible off a merchant. To make your roll easier.

And people are laughing at you and mocking you for this demand. Deservedly so. Imagine warriors demanding that crafted armor be put on a merchant or something. That's what you're asking.

if I can suck up that Clarity is months away from my grasp, you can accept that you might have to pay a dude who found your component.

[Skosh]

Here's the point though. As referenced back a few pages, when Magicians first discovered that their research skill was broken involving level 24+ pets (and by broken, I mean, you couldn't even craft pets with the proper materials), Verant responded within 24 hours by doing two things.

1) Research was patched and repaired to work as intended.
2) At most spell levels, 2 pets were added at each tier from vendors, and in the cases where this wasn't the route they chose, 1 pet was added instead.

This isn't a matter of it being an intended fix triggered by a point in time. It was an issue of something being broken for a class and the matter was hotfixed as a result after a review. For anyone actually playing back in 1999-2000, you will recall that Bards had their songs broken more often than not after EVERY freakin' update. Bards had a hard time. And when Verant realized that something was broken with them from player input, a fix went in within a day.

This isn't speculation, and it isn't an emotional appeal. It's the absolute facts of the matter, and it's facts that this server staff has chosen to ignore. I'm just honestly curious why they've chosen to bury their heads in the sand over this and hope it will go away.

[Vizax_Xaziv]

Originally Posted by TheRusty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You picked mage so you could get a head start. Same as people who rolled up druids and necros on day one. It's been 20 years man, we know how this game works. And nobody hates you for this. Do your thing, hell, I rolled an enchanter, who am I to judge on someone for wanting an easy time as a naked caster? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The problem comes up where after taking this head start, you run into an issue where you have a gear dependecy to progress. You need a spell. That spell requires research components - but because there are so few people at the level range to generate those components, and the competition is so high, you have to either tediously grind those components up somehow, or pay someone who has.

And you don't like this. It slows your roll. You knew what you were getting into - it's literally on the server's name - but just the same, you're mad. and you want it rectified. You want a special exception made, just for you, to make a piece of requirement easily accessible off a merchant. To make your roll easier.

And people are laughing at you and mocking you for this demand. Deservedly so. Imagine warriors demanding that crafted armor be put on a merchant or something. That's what you're asking.

if I can suck up that Clarity is months away from my grasp, you can accept that you might have to pay a dude who found your component.

Such immense hyperbole here in your comparison of vendor-bought Mage pets to vendor-bought Crafted Armor. Cmon bro!

And Enchanters not having Clarity isn't NEARLY as debilitating as Mages not having ANY pets. Indeed I say this only proves my point further. Enchanters even WITHOUT CLARITY are still probably the most powerful Class in Classic-era.

That really says something doesn't it?

[Ligma]

It says we're here to play an unfinished, unbalanced game. If you're playing p99, that's what you signed up for.