your hopes for red99 2.0

[walfreyydo]

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Teams does not make sense with level range PvP. There is no feeling of team cohesion or zone control if high level players cannot defend their lower level teammates. And this applies vice versa - there is no sense of extreme danger for trespassing into enemy territory if you only need to be afraid of enemies within a narrow level range. Unlimited level range PvP sounds like it would be nothing but a griefer fest, but it's actually no worse in regards to griefing than a fixed level range ruleset. For example, unlimited level range completely does away with the problem of heavily twinked/deleveled griefers.

This is a very convincing perspective.

[Gustoo]

Originally Posted by walfreyydo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is a very convincing perspective.

It isn't valid because it further trivializes the low levels. It means level 1-59 is garbage can and level 60 is where you become an actual character and begin to play the game. It ruins like 90% of the game content which is where a lot of people spend their time.

Level 60's spend zero time in level 1-50 zones because they are busy killing high level targets. NO ONE is going to protect noobs from any level 60 that cruises through butcher block slaughtering dwarfs. By the time someone leaves their raid to try to fight that dude, he has already gated after killing every single noob in the zone.

Only good thing is it adds value to ranger for finding and destroying all of the noobs. Gotta have a ranger for the slaughter.

Basically a level 60 coming through would be like dying to a kill streak airstrike in call of duty where you just get killed and then have to go find your body and its just an inconvenience that you have to deal with because you're not a real character yet because you aren't yet level 60.

[walfreyydo]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Level 60's spend zero time in level 1-50 zones because they are busy killing high level targets. NO ONE is going to protect noobs from any level 60 that cruises through butcher block slaughtering dwarfs. By the time someone leaves their raid to try to fight that dude, he has already gated after killing every single noob in the zone.

If you like PVP and are a competitive person you will. Thats the point of a PvP server, if all you care about is raiding and PvE content then blue/green is where you should play. People who enjoy PvP are competitive people by nature, and this is the point.

However, you do have a point. If a level 60 wants to grief say, Crushbone, then there isnt much players can do except hope/call in another level 60 (or group of 60s). Perhaps a "Local Defense" type channel is needed? I think many people would come to help if there was a server-wide race/team based chat channel for calling in reinforcements when needed. I think this would be a great solution to the issue you bring up.

Case in point: when I played WoW, I would basically sit and watch the Local Defense channel because I WANTED to PvP and specifically world-pvp, so i dont really buy the argument that no one will come because they are too busy raiding.