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Old 10-24-2019, 12:51 PM
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sure ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban is all they can really do. until they realize that they are the problem and the community is maybe a bit small to start banning everyone. If we ban all boxer of p99 , the EC tunnel will be EMPTY , and the economy would be RUIN , and you think it's take time to sell ? lol ... it will be WORST
While I agree with you that there are people who box on P99 and probably get away with it, I don't think it's that rampant. If they banned every boxer we'd probably lose like 100 people total. Not significant. Especially not with how many people are coming back for Green. Also, as an aside, I also don't care if they ban some boxer sitting in an out of the way area grinding XP for two characters and not really bothering/affecting anybody; I just hope that they ban boxers like you.

Your arguments are moot.
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Old 10-24-2019, 01:24 PM
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While I agree with you that there are people who box on P99 and probably get away with it, I don't think it's that rampant. If they banned every boxer we'd probably lose like 100 people total. Not significant. Especially not with how many people are coming back for Green. Also, as an aside, I also don't care if they ban some boxer sitting in an out of the way area grinding XP for two characters and not really bothering/affecting anybody; I just hope that they ban boxers like you.

Your arguments are moot.
100 people is significant because those players have friends and other plays stop after because their friend no longer plays also AM lost officier and many players at patch 50 , that numbers is not 100.. that number is around 400-500 and it is significant.
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Old 10-24-2019, 02:00 PM
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100 people is significant because those players have friends and other plays stop after because their friend no longer plays also AM lost officier and many players at patch 50 , that numbers is not 100.. that number is around 400-500 and it is significant.
No one on P99 has friends that are that dedicated to them lol

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ya because back in the time boxing was permitted and it's the TRUE classic experience, where this server say classic eq , where is not true. boxing is classic.
This is actually not fully accurate from a technical perspective. Boxing was not explicitly prohibited, but it was not explicitly allowed either. As a member of the CSR team at the time, I handed out my fair share of official warnings, suspensions, and bans for boxing under various parts of the EQ policies (such as zone disruption, exploitation, etc.). It depended on what you were doing as a boxer in terms of whether we let you slide when it came to our attention that you were doing it.
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Old 10-24-2019, 02:05 PM
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No one on P99 has friends that are that dedicated to them lol



This is actually not fully accurate from a technical perspective. Boxing was not explicitly prohibited, but it was not explicitly allowed either. As a member of the CSR team at the time, I handed out my fair share of official warnings, suspensions, and bans for boxing under various parts of the EQ policies (such as zone disruption, exploitation, etc.). It depended on what you were doing as a boxer in terms of whether we let you slide when it came to our attention that you were doing it.
I agree there , boxer can be a pain dependtly how they uses it.

Me boxing is

1 EC mule
1 that raid/group

doing transfer

doing buff for groups , rezzes etc

I NEVER used both toon in same zone to clear content never , I am a soloer , i've completed most of all p99 solo artist challenge duo god and legend including witch is why i was plat hungry , for solo artist kills.

I agree that some boxers can be toxic , like some people single account can be toxic.....
It's funny because y main that does solo artist kill is loved from the community , and boutik is hated from the community. I live a double life on p99 and it's was always funny receiving pm from a ''friend' on my main saying good things and nice chat then saying bullshit crap on boutik , to me it's just funny at some point it prouve how people can be stupid.
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Old 10-24-2019, 02:20 PM
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I agree there , boxer can be a pain dependtly how they uses it.

Me boxing is

1 EC mule
1 that raid/group

doing transfer

doing buff for groups , rezzes etc

I NEVER used both toon in same zone to clear content never , I am a soloer , i've completed most of all p99 solo artist challenge duo god and legend including witch is why i was plat hungry , for solo artist kills.

I agree that some boxers can be toxic , like some people single account can be toxic.....
It's funny because y main that does solo artist kill is loved from the community , and boutik is hated from the community. I live a double life on p99 and it's was always funny receiving pm from a ''friend' on my main saying good things and nice chat then saying bullshit crap on boutik , to me it's just funny at some point it prouve how people can be stupid.
EC auctioning on 1 character while leveling on another is something we would warn, suspend, and then ban for if we could catch it. If you want to sell your stuff, you need to sacrifice your leveling/farming time to do so. You don't get to do both at once.

To my knowledge, we never punished anyone for buffing or rezzing their group though, or doing item/money transfers if they weren't connected to RMT.
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Old 10-24-2019, 02:28 PM
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EC auctioning on 1 character while leveling on another is something we would warn, suspend, and then ban for if we could catch it. If you want to sell your stuff, you need to sacrifice your leveling/farming time to do so. You don't get to do both at once.

To my knowledge, we never punished anyone for buffing or rezzing their group though, or doing item/money transfers if they weren't connected to RMT.
Cheating to me is when you exploit game DLL or push new files or uses external software in a way it CHANGE THE CODE behind the hood of the game THAT IS CHEATING

Exploit well there is thousand of exploit on p99 , including using a clicky to cancel the global cooldown. EQ Exploits are fun because the game stay hard and it only gives you an advantage if well used and keep the game challenging , EQ is really well made.


Boxing is NOT cheating , it dosen't change the code behind the game. It is just a crap rule as I saied. PLEASE tell me the difference beertween A and B

A I ask my friend to log my alt so he can join part and afk exp while he at work , but using his connection.

B I do it myself but same things happens , 1 toon is sit and afk and reachs the exp.

Scenario A and B grant the EXACT same result , Altough A is legal but B is cheating ?
You can quickly realize that this rule is non-sense and people that dosen't respect this rule aren't cheater they are just cleaver.
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Old 10-24-2019, 02:31 PM
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Cheating to me is when you exploit game DLL or push new files or uses external software in a way it CHANGE THE CODE behind the hood of the game THAT IS CHEATING

Exploit well there is thousand of exploit on p99 , including using a clicky to cancel the global cooldown. EQ Exploits are fun because the game stay hard and it only gives you an advantage if well used and keep the game challenging , EQ is really well made.


Boxing is NOT cheating , it dosen't change the code behind the game. It is just a crap rule as I saied. PLEASE tell me the difference beertween A and B

A I ask my friend to log my alt so he can join part and afk exp while he at work , but using his connection.

B I do it myself but same things happens , 1 toon is sit and afk and reachs the exp.

Scenario A and B grant the EXACT same result , Altough A is legal but B is cheating ?
You can quickly realize that this rule is non-sense and people that dosen't respect this rule aren't cheater they are just cleaver.
Now you're changing the argument. I wasn't debating the merits of whether or not it's cheating. You said that banning people for boxing isn't classic. I said that it is classic because we did used to ban for it for certain things, including one of the things you mentioned that you do (selling on one character and playing on another). You were upset that you got banned for doing that and were trying to say it's "not classic"; I was just proving that being banned for that is, in fact, classic.
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